Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

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    Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

    Post by mikeiothegreat on Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:43 am

    Needed badly so that I can play it remotely on PS Vita, anywhere I go...

    Incidentally, from twitter last night I found that Tesco Direct has just added Dark Souls 2 to its preorder database for next gen consoles with a release date of Christmas next year: http://www.tesco.com/direct/dark-souls-2/328-3053.prd

    ...  which is either an input error or unintentional leaked information.
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    Re: Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:46 am

    You can play EVERY game on PS vita as well?

    ...won't they have to simplify the controls or does vita have R/L2 now?

    Anyways.. Dunno if you'd want a handheld version of souls unless it was purpose made for the console.. Might take away from how good it is playing the downscaled and probably inferior experience..

    Either way, I'm sure DkSII will find it's way to next gen, they'll just delay the release so that they maximise sales first off current gen and then next gen.


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    Re: Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

    Post by mikeiothegreat on Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:53 am

    Yes it's a CERT requirement that all PS4 games (except dance ones and others like it) are playable on PS Vita.  The PS4 has dedicated hardware to perform the streaming, so should be awesome over wifi and not too shabby over internet.

    With PS3 it was up to the developers to implement the Vita Remote Play feature, but the PS4 has it native; the only thing devs have to do is map the control system to the Vita's.  You're right the Vita doesn't have L2/R2 but it has plenty of other controls including touch/swipe detect on both the front and back (it's an awesome piece of kit and will become a fantastic companion to the PS4).
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    Re: Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

    Post by skarekrow13 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:33 am

    Certain games can get by the certification to stream to Vita but it's been stated that it would be games that require hardware that the Vita can't emulate.  So games that use Move for example.  The Vita has the camera but the PS4 has dual if you're using it and it requires a separate controller.

    It's also one of the many reasons I can't wait to get a PS4 whenever I can save up the money.  I get more time to play Vita these days than my PS3 and as a result my PS3 plus backlog only keeps growing.  On the Vita I've had a plethora of games this year.  Kinda crazy actually.  

    For your implied question Serious, one of the many interviews from Sony indicated that they are strongly encouraging developers to optimize controls.  It sounds like (from what I'm reading) that there may be a default mapping scheme but developers can tweak it to adjust to the Vita.  

    Some possible example of alternate methods:
    -Specific zones on the rear touchpad will be designated as L2 and R2
    -The rear touchpad could be set up to detect a downward swipe and register THAT as L2 and R2 allowing players such as myself to rest their fingers on the pad and still activate it when needed
    -The shoulder buttons could become the more often used buttons and less frequent could be mapped to the front touch screen.  
    -If someone REEEEEEALLY wanted to get creative they could use tilt controls or one of the other alternative input methods (camera, microphone) to map controls to
    -If Sony wants to sell more things to purists they could sell a peripheral controller companion or adapter for the Dual Shock 4 as there is a peripheral port that so far has seen nothing for it (plus it has Bluetooth)


    The sensitivity of the touch controls is amazing and I have no reason to think that motivated developers can't adjust things to work well for each game.....or even allow us to map to some extent ourselves.

    Also, regarding a downscaled experience, I don't have reason to suspect you'll lose out on much on a Vita for a PS4 game.

    Using OnLive on my old Droid Incredible, I was able to play Lego Batman. The phone by itself is nowhere near capable of playing that game well in my opinion. The input lag was pretty bad but as far as the viewing experience goes it's spot on. Even on a much smaller screen than the Vita I was able to see every detail and it didn't look like a watered down experience.

    Netflix, my cable provider, the Adult Swim app, etc. etc. all stream HD TV feeds to my phone (Vita has Netflix) and again, I can watch anything without feeling like it's a loss. And I have a 65 inch TV. Last night I was watching Football on my phone and it was amazing. With smaller screens often the colors and contrast pop better in my opinion. So screen size and video streaming are both things that should be amazing.

    Regarding input lag, while OnLive still has some things to work out, Sony already has a decent setup in the PS3. I tried playing Suikoden the other night via remote play and there was zero detectable input lag.


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    Post by TheWanderer101 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:33 am

    Man, if Dark Souls 2 is really coming to ps4 then ill be making the switch to next gen quicker then i initially thought. PS Vita is an awesome piece of tech and i would love to play Dark Souls 2 on the go but Vita desperately needs a price cut in NA it's almost as expensive as a ps4 but I hear rumors that sony is doing a vita/ps4 bundle for 500$. If thats true i would gladly pick up that bundle .
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    Post by samster628 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:40 am

    likewise


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    Re: Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

    Post by SadPanda on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:16 am

    Next-gen is worst gen.


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    Re: Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

    Post by IHateTheFourKings on Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:07 pm

    I'm planning on getting a PS4 instead of a the Xbox One this time around. I always get a Nintendo console for Zelda and one other for third party games. I don't have any personal stake in in coming out for the PS4, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it.

    That said, I'm honestly more miffed that the PS4 won't be backwards compatible, because I never got to play Demon's Souls, but I want to play a Demon's Souls 2 if rumors of that happening come to fruition.


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    Re: Why I want Dark Souls 2 on PS4 ....

    Post by skarekrow13 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:05 pm

    PS4 might end up backwards compatible if they roll Gaikai out the way they said they are. The goal, paraphrased here:

    Is to have the entire Playstation library available to stream through Gaikai


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