How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

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    How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Lmaousine on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:14 pm

    I'm having a lot of trouble with players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear, can anyone help me?


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:16 pm

    I'd suggest playing hollow or offline to avoid your encounters with these kinds of players.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Tolvo on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:17 pm

    Well the Bandit's knife is a way to deal with the bad ones, especially the more light armor ended ones since you can stunlock them. 

    Using force near edges is also an option.  

    However the common suggestion would really be, dashboard/home.  Sign out, and force them out of your world.  Block them and put them on the block list so you shouldn't end up facing them again.  Try to play offline until you reach a higher level.

    Fighting people with vastly superior weaponry requires you to be on a skill level vastly superior to them.  Statistically that means that 75% of players would lose such fights at the very least.  As such, try not to be in a position where you can end up in such a fight.  

    The other option is to summon low level people with powerful gear, and sit back as they kill invaders.
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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:18 pm

    Hollow or as I seen get a summon with endgame gear. Seen that a lot when I was a low sl.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:19 pm

    Or there's always pyromancy if you're willing to farm a lot of souls, it's really strong and can be used at max damage for any level.

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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:34 pm

    Umm use force??

    Bandits knife or rapier and bs them. Fart around hollow for a while farm shards/souls etc, prepare yourself.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:05 pm

    don't get hit. kidding.

    kill gergoyals, spend souls on crest of artorias, suicide run to get srone armor, bleed them out with reinforced club.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:22 pm

    As Serious said, play offline, or hollow. At least until you have means to defend yourself against these guys.
    Another option is to summon phantoms. Lots of them will have similar gear. If all else fails, you can always high tail it to a boss, or run off to die as close to bonfire as possible, so you don't lose your bloodstain.

    Use gravity and bleeding as much as you can if you want to kill them. Even a +0 Reinforced Club on SL 1 can do a three hit combo finished with a vicious backstab, which is likely to activate Bleedout on one of it's hits, resulting in huge damage.

    Even though I just said that. Don't be too focused on winning. It's not always possible to win. Instead, try to focus on surviving, or minimising the damage done to you (Souls and Humanity wise).

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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:13 am

    Backstab/Kick them off a cliff.
    You can only be invaded if you're human, but you can also summon while you're human. Either summon more pla myers to help you or don't become a human. Either one works fine although the latter is probably slightly more dangerous. It's a toss-up between having no help or possibly getting invaded.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:15 am

    I usually just run through areas ASAP and rely on whatever human/NPC summons that happen to be along the way.

    Usually their invasion window isn't even 1 minute long, before I could just get into fog gate compared to where most people invade.

    But yes, playing in offline mode while human form will let you summon NPCs to help and not have to deal with invaders of any variety.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by twigsterxd on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:16 am

    Like everybody said, play offline or play as hollow. Play offline as long as you're not pc, since pc players can't play offline. Try to get a good fast weapon and buff it with resins if invaded. Or as someone said above, go for pyro and try to max out your hand soon as possible. I love chaos fire at low level big grin


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by SadPanda on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:13 am

    Your problem?


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:19 am

    twigsterxd wrote:Like everybody said, play offline or play as hollow. Play offline as long as you're not pc, since pc players can't play offline. Try to get a good fast weapon and buff it with resins if invaded. Or as someone said above, go for pyro and try to max out your hand soon as possible. I love chaos fire at low level big grin
    You can play offline if you know firewalls. In the advanced settings just add an outbound rule to block DATA.exe. Can enable it whenever you want to play offline.
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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by twigsterxd on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:25 am

    Why didn't you tell us that a few months ago Scotty lolol
    Would save a lot of hassles for new players on pc big grin


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Lord of Ash on Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:45 pm

    the moral of the story kill them unless you die then bottle up all that anger and frustration and release it on other players become that which you hate mwa haa haa haa


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by ChizFreak on Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:31 pm

    Cliffs.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by OminousSquaffle on Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:39 pm

    ^ Yeah, cliffs. Or get a phantom or two and corner-stunlock them to death. Usually after they get below half HP they freak out and, instead of remembering the fact that they're toting gear that can one-hit kill you, they start panic rolling and run out of stamina before you do.

    Or, better yet, find an anti-griefer. Maybe I'm just lucky but if I idle around summon sign hotspots for a moment or two in the Burg/Parish I nearly always find at least one guy in snazzy armor carrying a lightning weapon. These fellas are on equal terms with most griefers, they're just of a noticeably kinder disposition.

    Or... (and I say this as a longtime griefer) run like hell. I've actually had multiple people get to the boss door before I could get 'em. Most of them just get an arrow to the back from a +5 Chaos composite bow but every once in a while one of them gets lucky.

    If all of the above fails, you should still get a phantom or two, even if they have crappy gear. At the very least they can serve as cannon fodder. Just gotta run faster than the other guy, right? Sun


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Pilgrim34 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:07 am

    OminousSquaffle wrote:
    Or... (and I say this as a longtime griefer) run like hell. I've actually had multiple people get to the boss door before I could get 'em.
    This is very sound advice. I find these days it's best to remain hollow during the early stages of the game but if you feel the need to be in human form you should move as quickly as you can.

    Stay hollow and clear out an area, take your time discovering and grabbing items, figure out where the boss door is and once you're satisfied with that then reverse hollowing, summon one or two phantoms and move swiftly to the boss, it's not worth the effort trying to fight griefers and you will improve your own PvE skills more by taking on an area alone without the help of phantoms.


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    Re: How to defeat players who have endgame gear and kill low level, low gear players who usually have little idea of what they're doing because it's their first playthrough with said endgame gear?

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:24 pm

    get a chaos fire weapon, pyros, crown of dusk and the dried finger. dress like a noob and get a surprise backstab with a bandits knife on your invaders. then you just keep the pressure on him so he can't heal. most people who have invaded me at low levels with endgame have been surprised by the damage of a chaos weapon. that often causes them to make a tactical error.


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