FexDS wrote: steveswede wrote:
That's complete bullcrap and you know it.
I disagree. Your sources please?
My sources? Do I really need to go out and buy magazines, newspapers and scan them as proof, spend an age digging up a ton of old programmes and music videos showing women finding it great to have sex in so many ways with loads of different toys. I ain't doing it on that level because one it's pointless when the stuff is so easy to find and two my comment was to call bluff on your bull. How can you even disagree when there is evidence when just walking around towns and cities.
http://www.annsummers.com/storelocator
This is the reality of it and this is just one piece. Men don't have this privilege in the UK, they have to resort to private shops with windows all blackened with no product advertisement outside or on the windows if they want to get access to products of a sexual nature. Ann Summers is a female only shop and their parties are female only. I have female friends that go to them. Women get commended in society for this sexual liberation, men get laughed at because like with slut shaming, a man's worth is reduced to nothing if he is found out that he uses any instrument to get himself off. People in society will think that there must be something wrong with a man if they have to resort to plastic.
Also, having plenty of female friends has gained me some insight on just how bad it can be for a man to reveal his high libido and his conquests. No end of them have said they would not go with a man who talks so openly about their past sex experiences in fear they might talk about them and wouldn't go with a guy who has paid for sex. They don't like going out with guys that have a local known history and usually get rid of them if they find out soon after.
FexDS wrote: steveswede wrote: Everyone here doesn't have to look far in society to find women liberating with sex.
What do you mean by this? That women are finding more "liberation" in sex? That modern standards are less prude than they used to be?
Both. They are less prude and because of that women find more liberation.
FexDS wrote: steveswede wrote:TV reality shows of women going on sex conquests on holiday, women being praised for sleeping with footballers and selling their stories to the newspapers, Ann Summers parties where women openly promote selling of sex toys and discussion of using them, music videos promoting the power of female sex and they are all doing it willing with no one forcing them to do it.
How are TV instances of females doing sexual things ultimate proof that society does not tell women they should not sleep with many guys?
Because if it wasn't acceptable, they would be removed from TV with media outlets condemning them saying that women don't do that. Sex and the City came and went and society did not kick up a fuss because we were already there socially.
FexDS wrote: steveswede wrote:Men are the ones that are told to repress it.
What? Men are often characterized as having an all high libido that is almost uncontrollable, and "think about sex all the time"
In society (lets be clear here when I say society I mean western society and more specifically the UK) being vocal about having a high libido is only good to the people in your personal group that you want to hear and who want to hear it. Taking about that in the public eye gets looked down on and become trash talk in the newspapers.
FexDS wrote: steveswede wrote:So no, you are so wrong on this.
I don't think so. I think you are just throwing around personal and narrow observation as fact.
I can also say the same about you. You make the claim that society tells females to repress their sex drive, or to a more extent told to repress more than males because lets be real about this there are bodies that tell both sexes what they can and can't do. Women having more promiscuous words than men does not mean that they get repressed more, that's silly logic. Perhaps you should check some of those words you posted to see just how crazy they are. Gypsy, Vamp, Crumpet, I had to LOL at them being used for promiscuous women.
And as for the private observations of realtime TV are superior to studies and encyclopedic entries comment, didn't you make the point about the Power Puff Girls earlier about the kiss is sexist? I mean that is a cartoon and you talked as if that brain washes kids to think that sex is a tool to get yourself out of a situation.
And just to clarify, I have done more than just looked and studied at TV, I have spent years making observations, reading other people's research, listening to many people and experienced it in my own life due to my surroundings and hobbies. The gender issue is a small piece out of the discrimination research I've done.