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    Post by Tolvo on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:08 pm

    Now as a preface, to anyone reading this or watching these videos, this person is not creating mods to add into the game.  He is going through files, and essentially trying to complete missing parts and test them out in game.  Some things include beta Bed of Chaos, Undead King Jar Eel, Beta Manticore, Child Beatrice.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3p7Naaq0xo
    Part 1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAtm1kGOQ4w
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4-boABnb_U
    Undead King Jar Eel

    Of course it might be fun to speculate about the intentions of such characters, such as Undead King Jar Eel being a sort of Dark Lord, or one of the Four Kings before changing such a boss fight.  Perhaps explaining why his sound file is similar to the gravelord sword dance of Nito and the floating exploding heads, explaining why those are in New Londo too.  Of course these are not actual things for the final game so they have no real standing in the lore, but still it's interesting.  I should also mention he is planning on doing more videos of cut content as he bridges gaps in the coding.
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    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:22 pm

    +1. I wouldn't find this stuff normally and it's nice to see someone use hacking and modding for good use. This stuff is actually really interesting seeing the taken out bosses and creatures


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    Post by Tolvo on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:30 pm

    Personally I find the Undead King and Child Beatrice to be the most interesting things, from the perspective of how different those seem to be in regards to the rest of the game.  Jar Eel doesn't really look like anything else in Dark SOuls, and a child character is again unheard of.
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    Post by Mental Gear on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:24 pm

    Nice find.
    I really like the look of that oversized guard on Jester's alternative character model.
    The crystal lizard is maybe a bit too happy for DkS, but the design looks a bit more solid.
    Somehow seeing child Beatrice makes me think of a life-following quest with timesteps to important turning points of her life until the point when you meet her as an adult.
    The Undead King Jar Eel char is pretty interesting, why the obvious difference to the design that made it ingame? His moves remind me of a Darkwraith.
    I think they were on a right path in terms of size. The final boss of a game just needs to be really huge in my book.

    I also hope they use some of the unfinished ideas in Dark Souls 2.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:41 pm

    uum that weird spider leg hollow shown in the first cut content vid... I've seen dks 2 concept art that looks similar... uum lemme see:


    not the same but close...


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    Post by Tolvo on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:05 pm

    I'm not sure if Jar Eel was supposed to be a final boss, he just threw him in there because the King worked a bit similar to Gwyn, there was no designation for where he was supposed to go.  They just figured that with the sound efects and similarity to a Dark Wraith, that maybe he was an early boss of New Londo.  There just isn't enough about the King.

    And yeah, the spider hollow looks decently like that concept art.
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    Post by steveswede on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:08 pm

    +1 for these videos. I've come across a load of videos a while back with some of these enemies in. It will be good to see the rest of Bed of Chaos in full action with it's missing moves because one of the animations involves the giant body detaching itself and crawling on the floor.
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    Post by KrazykevS10 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:20 pm

    To me,Jar Eel just seems like a ripoff of Jor El,derp.
    I found child Beatrice to be really creepy.


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    Post by Sentiel on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:50 pm

    Is it just me, or does Jar Eel sounds like False King from DeS?

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    Post by Tolvo on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:53 pm

    So that it wasn't silent, he put in the False King audio, he was taking the cut content and trying to make it a replacement boss fight for Gwyn as a side thing.  His animations and appearance though are of Jar Eel, just the sounds are Old King.
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    Post by Sentiel on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:09 pm

    Ah cool.

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    Post by befowler on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:22 pm

    Very cool.  Part of me regrets missing stuff like this and the cut Shiva stuff, but then again at least they left it in to reward us all these years later.

    The Undead king is definitely interesting, I also agree he could fit in either NL or the TOG.  My guess would be in the tomb somewhere, he's of a size with the skeletons down there, and I could see From putting him in a pack of skeletal hounds, or down in that giant coffin with all the other giant skeletons and the divine ember just to be particularly cruel about it.


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    Post by Jansports on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:24 pm

    Was I the only one who wanted immediately to be able to play as child Beatrice?

    Because I really wish I could make a little girl, and cast absurd soul magic that demolishes my foes. Or imagine the Child model using other things, a kiddy sized Zweihander, little poofs of combustions!

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    Post by General Bale on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:43 pm

    That was an interesting watch. Thanks for sharing.
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    Post by steveswede on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:45 pm

    BTW isn't it widely speculated that King Jar Eel is one of the four kings? Well the prototype version I mean.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:49 pm

    anyone else see the ridiculous beta chester, that sword was awesome!


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    Post by Derpwraith on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:55 pm

    Jar Eel has the same voice as King Allant.


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    Post by Tolvo on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:58 pm

    Jar Eel may have been the original boss of New Londo as was speculated, meaning maybe he was one of the four kings.  Maybe there were originally going to be four individual bosses, maybe it was just going to be him, maybe he was just going to be a sub boss, or maybe there was no relation at all.  Based off of his appearance, I have a feeling he was cycled out early in development.
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    Post by retro on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:37 pm

    Ingward's cut dialog likely confirms that the Undead King Jar Eel wasn't going to be one of the Four Kings, but another boss in New Londo Ruins before the Four Kings. Defeating him would have been a trial to get the Key to the Seal (on top of needing the Lordvessel)...  
      
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    The developments on replacing models with unused enemies are very exciting!

    If anyone is interested, I wrote this page here, which is an organized collection of almost all of the unused content: http://darksouls.wikispaces.com/unused-content

    A few things are still missing, like minor lines of cut dialog from a few more NPCs, another unused enemy model, a few of the beta/ proto versions of enemies, and also unused animations.


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    Post by skarekrow13 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:49 pm

    Jar El seems sooooooo out of place with the game. Still interesting as hell though. It's always cool to hear there was cut content but to see how far it got before being cut is crazy. That Proto-Chester was using moves I've never seen. Completely awesome. And the child Beatrice detail is pretty insane. Was it just me or did she have a veil hanging back and short hair? Just awesome.

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    Post by KrazykevS10 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:53 pm

    This just makes me wish we had more content in the game.I do think Chester was underused too,he is too cool looking to just be a minor invasion.


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:36 pm

    Very interesting, indeed.

    Excellent find, Tolvo.

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    Post by GrinTwist on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:27 pm

    I'd love to know more about the lore behind all of this, if it was developed. Not to be rude but am I the only one that things Jar Eel looks like something from World of Warcraft? His armor seems so off from the environment he's in.


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:31 pm

    GrinTwist wrote:Not to be rude but am I the only one that things Jar Eel looks like something from World of Warcraft?

    I was thinking God of War.

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    Post by GrinTwist on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:33 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:
    GrinTwist wrote:Not to be rude but am I the only one that things Jar Eel looks like something from World of Warcraft?

    I was thinking God of War.

    Yeah that makes more sense.

    Anyways, I wouldn't have minded those rock worms being in the game. Probably not in the same place though.


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