Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by VaDoom on Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:01 am

    I think you mean the stone from 2-2.
    And I don't think you're right happy. I killed two player's BP yesterday in like 10 min in the same world/level. Both were invaders (not summoned), one gave me the first message, the other the second one.


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by Walter_White on Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:52 am

    killed with bleeding, poison, plague, evironment?


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:06 am

    VaDoom wrote:I think you mean the stone from 2-2.
    And I don't think you're right happy. I killed two player's BP yesterday in like 10 min in the same world/level. Both were invaders (not summoned), one gave me the first message, the other the second one.

     Sorry I messed up. The stone isn't necessarily from anywhere, it's just dropped from the first BP NPC you kill happy I go 1-1, 2-1, 3-1 etc so I'd get it from 3-1 first.

    I had no idea if I was right, i was blindly guessing since i dont know silly


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by VaDoom on Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:14 am

    @Serious, I just learned something... Seems like my first BP kill has always been 2-2... And it's not like my first playthrough was yesterday...
    Yes, I know you were just guessing and I just answered like I didn't know happy

    @Walter. Both killed the "normal way", with a crescent falchion +4 in the chest, in yesterday's case. The older cases, I don't remember. I'll ask the next one weither he is NG+ or not, after choosing the bad ending. I think it might be related to that.


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by Walter_White on Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:34 am

    Crescent Falcion still inflicts bleeding - and it's a difference if the host/invader dies to bleeding or from a direct hit. The killing blow counts.

    I did some invasion yesterday and had every case.
    Host killed me through bleeding - i got soul drained, like dying to environment
    Host killed me through kicking down - i got soul drained, it was an environment kill

    I killed host with bleeding or poison (mercury uchi and kilij dual wiled, harharhar) - didn't got my push to PBCT
    I killed host with kicking down (Crescent Axe is great for that) - didn't got my push to PBCT

    Finnaly i started to use my dual wield dragon+5 Knight Swords and stopped kicking down to get my PBCT and at last Mephistopheles appeared ;-)

    The messages are different if you die/kill with a direct hit, or with any other cause.


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by VaDoom on Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:55 am

    So it might be that, but I don't remember killing neither of them through bleeding.


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by Walter_White on Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:55 am

    the last hp counts, perhaps you inflicted bleeding with the last hit you did, he had 1 hp left after that hit, but bleeding came and took the last hp -> environment kill
    The dying animations differs in that case and no CT change will happen.

    So, if you intend to achieve PWCT or PBCT don't go with bleeding/poison/plague weapons out for a kill and don't kick em down

    ...yesterday some hosts jumped to death, when starting to lose to not give me my PBCT boost twistedevil


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by Undiscovery on Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:07 pm

    Still play Demons? I hardly find any players. Only see summon signs in Shadowmen Shrine. And I just get invaded by the same two arses in 1-3 and 1-4. Both fairly easy, one just likes to d1ck around knock you down with storm ruler than acid your ****.. Needless to say they still ate my dragonbone smasher.


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by Walter_White on Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:00 pm

    blue signs you find anywhere (even in 5-2) with the correct SL - you need to be low @30-40
    Invading works best in 4-1 or 4-2 with sl around 30-40
    Old Monk is still active with any SL below 130
    SL 120 PvP still in 4-1, pretty much traffic on weekends

    The next thing i explore is PvP around 50-60, i should get some in NG+

    After PSN and even more after PS+ Release in EU there was really very much traffic. Had nights where every Invasion worked, and i did around 20 in a row.
    Yesterday it was a bit slower, 4-1 dead with SL32, 4-2 every 2nd-3rd worked, but in the late hours i got someone 5x (he died to the 1st reaper 3x, and i killed him 2x) and it was boring to watch him dying to the reaper, or kill him without any danger


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by BrotherBob on Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:33 pm

    Part of my mod involves Sage Freke offering the player sorceries in return for Demon's Souls to conduct research. I find it interesting that Saint Urbain offers miracles for Demon's Souls as well? Why does he want Demon's Souls if he believes that they are the source of evil? What is he using them for?

    EDIT: I looked at his dialogue: "If you wish for benevolent protection in your fight against the demons, then bring me Demon Souls. I will cleanse them, and perform a miracle with their power."


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    Re: Lore Reason for Black Phantoms?

    Post by Undiscovery on Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:38 pm

    Interestingly to note, the magic schools in DeS are all akin to the Old One as referenced by the ToB, the difference is how they're manifested as told by both Freke and Yuria. Sorceries used by Knowledge/Thought; converting Demon Souls into Human Potential, a rework of the power. Witch Craft used by Emotion; channeling the power of Demon Souls directly. And Miracles used by Belief, or by a mental trinity standpoint, feeling; 'cleansing' Demon Souls converting them into a countersign of it's power.

    I also like how Freke goes mad and says to not lull the Old One to keep the Soul Artes. While Saint Urbain freaks because it sounds like his god.


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