Are you a pure Duelist?

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    Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:56 pm

    Put up or shut up!




    Check out the Rules:

    Rules:

    • Max SL 100
    • You must dual wield any combination of the Estoc, Rapier, Velka's Rapier or Ricard's Rapier
    • No 2-handing a weapon at any time
    • Your chest, arm and leg armor must all be zero poise
    • You must wear a helmet with poise, but NOT Havel's
    • Wolf, Leo, Hornet & Dark Wood Grain rings are forbidden
    • No item usage whatsoever (flasks, humanity, green blossoms, buffs, etc.)  
    • No rolling
    • Stay on the bridge, in front of and facing your opponent at all times (yes, this means no back-stabs)
    • And of course... no castings!


    Yep... that's right: no buffs, no dark bead spam, lagged out pursuers or CSS, no magic whatsoever!  Our rules nerf everything anyone ever complains about!  Flipping, turtle-ing, roll-poking, spears, katanas, poise stacking, poise-stabbing, roll-stabbing... ALL backstabs are prohibited!!  There's nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.  

    Also, anything to do with Giant Dad is prohibited.  The armor setup is inverted (helm and no body armor) and family masks,  large weapons, shields, castings and two-handing weapons are all explicitly or inherently prohibited.  The only thing you could do is stack endurance.  Finally, you don't have to tell anyone you leveled up dexterity, but you better get it to 12 in a rapier only competition!

    So, if you claim to be any kind of duelists; unless you have a note from the doctor -- you have no excuse not to show up!  


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by RANT on Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:05 am

    What about backstep?


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by LunarFog on Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:10 am

    The combat restrictions might be hard to enforce.  But other than that good luck to all the participants.  Rapiers are my favorite weapon, but I'm not a "duelist" per se so I can't compete.

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:45 am

    Back-steps are allowed and will be a vital tactic.  

    Lunar, you are more than welcome to participate.  The event is not restricted to duelists.  I am anything but a duelist myself. This thread is just is just to advertise to the duelists out there; let everyone know about our event.  It's just for fun, but it's also a great opportunity to role-play a true "honor duel".


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by LunarFog on Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:49 am

    Sorry but me and honor don't mix.  Plus I'm not too eager to participate in a tournament where my victory isn't practically guaranteed.  I'm just at too much of a disadvantage without my normal tactics.

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:03 am

    I occasionally get mistaken for having honor, because I like fighting people who can fight back.

    However, I don't actually have much happy.


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:09 am

    umm.. a location suggestion, you know the wall walkway in the painted world where theres a ring of sacrifice on a corpse ( to the left of the phalanx enemies)? that long thin walk way would give the host a good view and provide plenty of back and forth space for the duelists.


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:17 am

    Still the same rules? 
    Guardian Helm, parry spam and Estoc everywhere.

    As a Rapier person, I see way too many flaws in this idea for it to be fun for me, so I'll pass, thank you.

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Myztyrio on Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:05 am

    You had me until "No Rolling..."


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Leet on Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:14 am

    No rolling and no 2 handing? surprised

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by crbngville2 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:41 am

    No thanks, but good luck anyway. I am a fighter and a brawler. You have made up way too many rules, for this to be fun for me.


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by sure-magicians on Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:03 pm

    I like the idea and I could enjoy the rules Hugh, sadly I'm going on vacation for 3 weeks otherwise I'd join.
    +1 from me anyway...


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Ahhotep1 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:25 pm

    Why Hugh's OP (here) was neg repped is beyond my understanding. twistedevil 

    I have +rep'd you, Hugh!

    I don't suppose the neg rep'er would care to explain. But protecting the anonymity of the rep system is important. Still, I sometimes wonder, "why?"


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Lmaousine on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:50 pm

    Looks like someone thinks that hardcore PvP is too much for them and decided to downvote you.

    But yea you seem like my kinda guy

    Also I have a few questions for you if you don't mind

     What platform (PS3,Xbox360,PC) is this on?
    What bridge are you talking about? Anor Londo? Demon Ruins?
    Is backstepping/ running attacks banned?


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by crbngville2 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:31 pm

    Lmaousine wrote:Looks like someone thinks that hardcore watered down PvP is too much boring for them and decided to downvote you.

    But yea you seem like my kinda guy

    Also I have a few questions for you if you don't mind

     What platform (PS3,Xbox360,PC) is this on?
    What bridge are you talking about? Anor Londo? Demon Ruins?
    Is backstepping/ running attacks banned?

     Fixed it for you. And for the record, it was not I who downvoted the op.


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Ahhotep1 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:54 pm

    crbngville2 wrote:
    Lmaousine wrote:Looks like someone thinks that hardcore watered down PvP is too much boring for them and decided to downvote you.

    But yea you seem like my kinda guy

    Also I have a few questions for you if you don't mind

     What platform (PS3,Xbox360,PC) is this on?
    What bridge are you talking about? Anor Londo? Demon Ruins?
    Is backstepping/ running attacks banned?

     Fixed it for you. And for the record, it was not I who downvoted the op.

    Since when is it "cool" to change the wording in someone's quote? lol! 

    It's an event offering...nothing more and nothing less. The negativity is a bit bewildering tbh. Oh, well...it is what it is, I suppose.

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Lmaousine on Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:53 pm

    crbngville2 wrote:
    Lmaousine wrote:Looks like someone thinks that hardcore watered down PvP is too much boring for them and decided to downvote you.

    But yea you seem like my kinda guy

    Also I have a few questions for you if you don't mind

     What platform (PS3,Xbox360,PC) is this on?
    What bridge are you talking about? Anor Londo? Demon Ruins?
    Is backstepping/ running attacks banned?

     Fixed it for you. And for the record, it was not I who downvoted the op.
    No one is accusing you of anything.

    I don't see how this is watered down, just allow rolling and two handing. Then we will be good.

    I can't see why not allowing magic is a bad thing, everyone will have to rely on mechanical skill and reflexes to win matches. If that is too much for you, then just don't participate


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:21 pm

    Thank you to those of you who have been constructive and positive.  For those of you who have gone out of your way to be negative:

    Spoiler:



    Lmaousine wrote:Looks like someone thinks that hardcore PvP is too much for them and decided to downvote you.

    But yea you seem like my kinda guy

    Also I have a few questions for you if you don't mind

     What platform (PS3,Xbox360,PC) is this on?
    What bridge are you talking about? Anor Londo? Demon Ruins?
    Is backstepping/ running attacks banned?

    I think you're right.  

    The duels will be on the bridge with the two hollows and the alluring skulls just above the iron boar in the Parish.  As I said, back-steps (and with them running attacks) are definitely allowed and will be a vital tactic.  The picture and this: Dark Souls Fencing both link to the event thread.  We will try to run it on all platforms, but we only have one person for PC currently.

    BTW... The event title is: "Dark Souls Fencing".  Fencing so, yes rolling is banned (of course)... but please read the OP -- there is a paragraph immediately following the rules in the OP that explains in more detail how rolling will be dealt with.  

    PS -- Enjoy your vacation, Magicians!


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:36 pm

    1. This is the third thread promoting the same event. Two by Hugh and one by our admin, Fex. Not to mention the event being in the event calendar on the home page. I feel there's no further need to promote the event.

    2. Misleading thread name, which has nothing to do with the event itself. Doesn't share the name, date, nothing.

    3. The first sentence Hugh starts the thread with "Put up or shut up!" is unfit to the kind and friendly spirit of this forum and the events it always promoted. If I was new here, after reading the this first sentence, I would leave the thread and perhaps even the community, whilst thinking it's full of elitists. That is something I really hate to see here, because this community is anything, but elitist. There are lot of new people coming in since Dark Souls II was announced and Demon's Souls is available for free on PS+.

    4. The general tone of the first post feels very unwelcoming, perhaps slightly hostile, especially thanks to all the prohibition and not clearly explaining what is allowed and not. I am aware that it was mean in a fun way, however it is, what is.

    5.
    Emergence wrote:Can we please only use down reps for posts that go against forum spirit and not for ideas we disagree with?
     
    As stated in the point 3 and 4, I feel the first post (not the event itself) is against this forum's spirit, or at least the way I perceive and accept this spirit.
     
    These points, are what lead me to downrep the OP.

    PS:
    I'd appreciate if you people would kindly stop derailing every thread where you disagree with someone's choice of Rep distribution and even go so far as to start bashing the person. It's annonymous for a very good reason and up to our individual judgement to decide who to give Rep. The person giving Rep, does not have to justify his, or hers choice and you should accept the person's choice, instead of questioning it and calling out for the person. I believe that people should not be concerned about giving and receiving Rep, especially if they, themselves were not the ones that received the Rep in question.

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Leet on Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:51 pm

    You're kind of derailing the thread yourself with a post like that.

    If people don't like it, simply don't go to it. It's easy as that.

    I wish you luck with this event hugh. I'd gladly join but it's not my cup of tea (i mean that in the nicest way possible) thumbs up

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Coryf2209 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:56 pm

    Might I advise the estoc?  The length makes it a little more reminiscent of a foil.


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:57 pm

    The estoc is allowed.  Actually, the reason I thought it belonged was because the R2 slash reminded me of the Sabre. big grin


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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Carphil on Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:11 am

    I'm definitely in! But like i said, no promises! If I make it though, preapre to face my brand new Velka' follower! (currently building)


    I can see why other people disagree with the event, some people are simply too used to their own tatics and a few rules here or there can make them a bit insecure, which its not a problem in my opinion, but I like to join as many unique events as possible!

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    Re: Are you a pure Duelist?

    Post by Ahhotep1 on Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:26 am

    Good Morning Everyone!   Sun  (for me it is silly)

    Dark Souls Fencing Event is today!! At 9am (PDT). So come and join in! Don't "sit on the fence"! twistedevil 


    Corny, I know. But I just got off work so my brain is in that strange state of limbo. ATM lol!


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