How good is the Demon Great Machete?

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    How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Lmaousine on Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:58 pm

    I'm making a new build that uses this weapon, but how good is it in PvP?


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by ResIsBestStat on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:14 pm

    Very, VERY good if you are using a strength build and plan on buffing it. But it's already so powerful without buff.
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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Dibsville on Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:32 pm

    Only good if you know how to use it.

    It's extremely powerful, but also one of the easiest weapons in the game to parry.

    You'll have to pick and choose when the right time to attack is, because even with Ring of Favor and Protection and 40 Endurance you can only attack four times before you drain your stamina bar, and only 3 times without the ring.


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:35 pm

    Too easy a weapon to parry but a force to reckon with in the hands of a creative and skilled players who use it.


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by shadowzninjaz on Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:09 pm

    It's a very stronk weapon that needs practice using 2 be able 2 use it decently


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:38 pm

    Good weapon. Extremely heavy, so unless you are at a high level, you'll sacrifice poise to use it. Also, since it is so easy to parry, you'll have to practice dead angles.


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Laveidem on Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:41 pm

    Try not to use too many R2 attacks, that slow windup can leave you with 17 stabs wounds in the back.


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:44 pm

    Not as good as the zweih, sadly. Its a lot tougher to dead angle with and it doesn't stunlock, and its r2s are useless, still in clever hands its great.


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:28 am

    best UGS in terms of sheer power via one stat (the zwei gets close to it in power on a 40/40 build but...) sadly its r2 is practically unusable and it weighs 18 units, honestly i'd say make a sl 55 tank build for it: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=494258088309470486


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:12 am

    What level are you looking at? Demon great machete is a lot of fun. It may not be the best strength weapon out there for PvP, but it's definitely fun and does a ton of damage.

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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Carphil on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:08 am

    I believe the only thing about this weapon that makes you cry is how heavy the danm thing is! Otherwise, its overall a great weapon.

    Damage is similar to most demons weapons, at 50 str and sl120, my results are 550 for one hand and 650 for two handed (maximum)

    try it out with many build styles, light rolling, very tanky and heavy, or even ninja flipping! You might find the perfect build for you

    good luck!


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Dibsville on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:10 am

    Carphil wrote:I believe the only thing about this weapon that makes you cry is how heavy the danm thing is! Otherwise, its overall a great weapon.
    I think you mean Smough's Hammer.


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Carphil on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:14 am

    Dibsville wrote:
    Carphil wrote:I believe the only thing about this weapon that makes you cry is how heavy the danm thing is! Otherwise, its overall a great weapon.
    I think you mean Smough's Hammer.

    Smough hammer is heavy and NO fun! at least for a half blind man like me, I can't see anything on the screen with that thing!


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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by Leet on Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:39 pm

    Pirate hit the nail on the head. You could always buff it with crystal magic and throw the hornet ring on and BS fish with it. I run into people with that setup all the time. Granted, that's a very boring playstyle and is essentially looked down upon, that is one way you can do it. The roll r1 on it is just like the Zwei too which is one of my favorite moves with the Zwei. Other than that i don't like it. Too heavy and outclassed.

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    Re: How good is the Demon Great Machete?

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:46 pm

    IMO go midroll or fatroll and dead angle with it.

    It's one of the higher damage values per hit you can get on 27 str (no need to worry about dex scaling).  Its R2 is pretty bad but the sweeping attacks + poisebreak make it like a slightly harder to land but more damaging Zwei that isn't a quality weapon.

    Edit:  It's probably best NOT on higher SL builds, because it's heavy and doesn't need a lot of stats to get near max scaling:

    http://mmdks.com/31bf

    Dump some faith and attunement if you want to go even lower.  However, with midroll + vow of silence and/or great magic barrier you basically force melee or bows.

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