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    Is my build bad?

    Post by djenkov on Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:50 am

    Hey,

    I bought Dark Souls recently. I was so consumed by the game that I wasn't researching builds at all. At first I wanted it to be an endurance/vit, then I maxed(40) dex for uchigatana but I liked claymore more, so I maxed str for optimal dmg. 
    Then....I set my eyes on int for weapon buffs....
    I know that its super mixed, so I was hoping that you  guys tell me if this is a bad thing and why? I play mainly offline, but I think of trying some pvp.

    So, here it is:
    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=236944517599385099
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by Avenger649 on Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:07 am

    First off, having 29 poise is pointless, I would suggest going up to 32 at a minimum, ninja flipping in my opinion is unnecessary and Level 130 is a little too high for PvP, I would suggest trying to stay at level 120-130.
    The build can be six levels lower if you switch the class to wanderer.
    Overall I am sad to say the build is really unoptimised and can be improved in many ways.
    I would use this if you are willing to remake your character: http://mmdks.com/2yk1


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:05 am

    also swap your catalyst with your pyro glove as you cant buff your weapon

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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by djenkov on Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:25 am

    Thanks guys. I think I will make this my offline build. I will just make another one for PvP.
    Avenger, do you think that your build will be competitive, or are there better options? If so, will a dex/int or dex/faith will be a better choice? And does the current metagame allows such builds?
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by wretchedsausage on Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:32 am

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t14581-reim-s-guide-to-making-builds
    Check this thread out mate. Your current build is really not viable for PVP, but it'll be fine for PVE.


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:41 am

    If you're going for PvP, try this http://mmdks.com/2yly


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by djenkov on Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:53 am

    Dibsville wrote:If you're going for PvP, try this http://mmdks.com/2yly

     ***, thanks! I think I really like this one. One question though: Are 19 points in attunement really that necessary for PvP? I mean, aren't 14 enough for Power Within, GMW and Fire Tempest( or Great Fireball)? And thanks "sausage" I will check this topic out.
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:59 am

    It's not necessary, but it really depends on where you'd be PvPing. If you're going to invade somewhere like the Forest, that build would be a good choice.

    If you're going to do things like dueling, it would be better to get the bare essentials then just dump the rest into Vitality.

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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by djenkov on Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:14 am

    Thanks, I will think about it and will decide later on. I actually regret for not joining earlier, because I thought that the community will be ****. You guys rock.
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:17 am

    djenkov wrote:Thanks, I will think about it and will decide later on. I actually regret for not joining earlier, because I thought that the community will be ****. You guys rock.
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:12 pm

    I looked over dibs' builds here and they look good to me.

    Definitely don't sit just under 30 poise.  It was only yesterday I got invaded with a PvE build using a raw halberd (just running through the game) and killed a guy with 800+ HP using power within + 2h stunlock.  I don't know if he had an elemental weapon or not, but with that kind of poise unless you can perfectly toggle escape it wouldn't even matter...he missed 1 attack and never got another chance.

    In addition to Reim's guide, make sure you're at a poise break point.  Poise above a break point isn't useless since it gradually recovers, but the break points are really important for trades.


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:38 pm

    http://mmdks.com/2yno maybe you like this. 45dex for fastest casting, 16int for 2 of the best spells. bead, flame and orb form a really nice toolset @ 45dex. compromise on the weapon: flamberge has the lowest damage output of all the greatswords but reaches its peak with less stat investment than the claymore. since you're no pvp veteran i suggest having 61poise: you'll get stunned only by the heaviest of weapons and can manouver a bit more carelessly. thorn gauntlets help you prevent a few backstabs as greatswords already fall into the slower category.
    lvl100 is a personal preference of mine, and your build concept can be easily executed on that level... here's a lvl120 anyway http://mmdks.com/2yny

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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:30 pm

    Halberd can stunlock?  That's news to me.


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:31 pm

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Halberd can stunlock?  That's news to me.
    Go to YouTube and look up "MartyrsBrigade".

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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:33 pm

    Not going to, but thanks.  Just knowing that it can is enough.


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by djenkov on Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:38 am

    Hey,
    Sorry about asking for your opinion again. I had a lot of work these days, so I couldn't level up all that much (currently at lvl 83), but I tweaked dips build a bit and I came up with this:
    http://mmdks.com/2zm1
    The difference is just 4 points, so I am not sure if its worth posting it, but here you go. I am also not sure about my armor selection. I can wear a lighter armor and just put a wolfs ring.
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by Dibsville on Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:45 am

    It seems good, but you're better off with Wolf Ring, for both poise and armour choices.

    Try this: http://mmdks.com/2zm6

    You can mess with the armour as you please, for example: http://mmdks.com/2zm7

    58 poise is just a breakpoint I prefer, you can go with some legs that give poise and some lighter gauntlets, for example: http://mmdks.com/2zma .

    Having Wolf Ring over Havel's will also allow you to swap to better rings without losing fast roll, depending on the situation.


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by djenkov on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:12 am

    Oh, thanks. I have to ask though, isn't physical defence that comes with heavier armor important? Or should I just close my eyes about this stat?
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by Dibsville on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:14 am

    It only matters if you have really low health, otherwise it's normally better to sacrifice defense for poise.

    On that note, you should only need defense if you expect to get hit. If you expected to get hit, you wouldn't need fast roll. In other words, your defense shouldn't matter to you at all as long as you're going for fast roll.

    It's still important, but poise is even more important.


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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:20 am

    http://mmdks.com/2zmf try this for armor, 61 poise breakpoint is pretty awesome for a greatsword build, lets you tank/trade greatsword running 2h R1, 2 2h katana swings and black flame. as a (my) rule of thumb you should always have enough poise to tank at least your own 2h R2, in your case 53poise minimum. 1500+ hp is still plenty (the lvl50 softcap without fap ring) and your improved defense rating will be noticable.
      with the fap + havel ring concept more poise = more defense so it's a win/win situation.
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    Re: Is my build bad?

    Post by djenkov on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:32 am

    Thank you both for your input. Its much appreciated.

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