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    Bow backstabs

    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:33 pm

    They're insta-kills?? are you kidding me!? :x one backstab killed me with 1824 hp... bull crap -_-
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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by Liff Daddy on Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:35 pm

    Probably using the hornet ring


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:43 pm

    no hornet ring, and why was that voted down? :|

    Edit: why would i be voted down for thinking that a weapon with around 370 AR doing 1800 on a backstab without hornet ring is bull? :| My rapier can do that much damage with a riposte only when buffed with sunlight blade and hornet ring
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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:00 am

    Don't know why you got voted down but, no, bow backstabs are definitely not OHK!

    They are glitched though. If you use them with the Dragon Torso, they do broken amounts of damage. I'm not sure, but I believe the hornet's ring actually negates this effect! I think it's just dragon torso and bow bs. You can stack it with Power Within and the Red Tearstone Ring too--but then you're just in fantasy-land damage, way beyond anyone's HP.


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:02 am

    I've been BSed while bowing. I learned to get some distance before bowing. That way, I can get the heck out of there if he rushes me.

    Still gonna bow though.


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:04 am

    My bad, seems you can use the hornet's ring. But the key is the dragon torso.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo60fKUv2Dg&feature=related

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    Other kind of bow! winking


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:07 am

    Oh! LOL. Oops.


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:08 am

    reim0027 wrote:I've been BSed while bowing. I learned to get some distance before bowing. That way, I can get the heck out of there if he rushes me.

    Still gonna bow though.

    Not the bowing animation, a Bow as in a bow and arrow, the weapon. Some guy was using the dragon torso, ring of fog & pharis's bow and OHK'd me.
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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:11 am

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    Post by reim0027 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:11 am

    Yeah, it's unbelievable how much BS damage that a bow does.


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by Unforseen on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:30 am

    The arrows are holding those bows back.
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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by Tolvo on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:54 am

    Get a two Handed Chaos +5 Heavy Hitting weapon, watch your number outshine theirs haha.

    I've never actually run into this issue, then again when I see a dragon try this I just nuke the hell out of them and BS them before they can even try it. If you see a dragon with a bow, shoot first and ask questions later. If all they are going for is backstabs and don't bow first, why even bow to them?
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    Post by Yarxov on Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:43 am

    ^ No Chaos weapon will outshine 31K, and 2 Handing it won't make difference with Humanity scaling, not Strength.


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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:52 am

    Yarxov wrote:^ No Chaos weapon will outshine 31K, and 2 Handing it won't make difference with Humanity scaling, not Strength.

    I think he meant get just enough strength to two-hand one. Also, doesn't two-handing increase damage of all weapons?

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    Post by barecanvas on Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:56 am

    Dj-B-Man-Jr wrote:
    Yarxov wrote:^ No Chaos weapon will outshine 31K, and 2 Handing it won't make difference with Humanity scaling, not Strength.

    I think he meant get just enough strength to two-hand one. Also, doesn't two-handing increase damage of all weapons?
    yes but i dont think 2handing a sword increases bs damage
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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by BLA1NE on Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:02 am

    2-handing increases critical damage a little bit.


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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:03 am

    barecanvas wrote:
    Dj-B-Man-Jr wrote:
    Yarxov wrote:^ No Chaos weapon will outshine 31K, and 2 Handing it won't make difference with Humanity scaling, not Strength.

    I think he meant get just enough strength to two-hand one. Also, doesn't two-handing increase damage of all weapons?
    yes but i dont think 2handing a sword increases bs damage

    It does
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    Post by Yarxov on Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:07 am

    2 Handing Elemental weapons doesn't increase the damage iirc.
    This is because when you 2H something you are making the STr requirement 2/3 the normal, so scaling becomes better if it scales at all. Which elemental weapons do not.


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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:14 am

    Yarxov wrote:2 Handing Elemental weapons doesn't increase the damage iirc.
    This is because when you 2H something you are making the STr requirement 2/3 the normal, so scaling becomes better if it scales at all. Which elemental weapons do not.

    False sir! I just tested it, chaos rapier R1 did 230 one-handed on the treent things in the forest and did 299 two-handed. And no i did not get a counter.
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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:22 am

    2H an elemental weapon slightly increases the regular attack damage too.


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:24 am

    There's a reason I 2h my +4 Chaos Gargoyle Halberd.
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    Post by Yarxov on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:01 am

    Dj-B-Man-Jr wrote:
    Yarxov wrote:2 Handing Elemental weapons doesn't increase the damage iirc.
    This is because when you 2H something you are making the STr requirement 2/3 the normal, so scaling becomes better if it scales at all. Which elemental weapons do not.

    False sir! I just tested it, chaos rapier R1 did 230 one-handed on the treent things in the forest and did 299 two-handed. And no i did not get a counter.
    I haven't tested it, hence the 'iirc'
    The Strength 2/3 stats aren't wrong.


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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:03 am

    Yarxov wrote:
    Dj-B-Man-Jr wrote:
    Yarxov wrote:2 Handing Elemental weapons doesn't increase the damage iirc.
    This is because when you 2H something you are making the STr requirement 2/3 the normal, so scaling becomes better if it scales at all. Which elemental weapons do not.

    False sir! I just tested it, chaos rapier R1 did 230 one-handed on the treent things in the forest and did 299 two-handed. And no i did not get a counter.
    I haven't tested it, hence the 'iirc'
    The Strength 2/3 stats aren't wrong.

    I don't know what "iirc" means. I know the strength stats aren't wrong, i meant you were about elemental wepons' damage not increasing when being held with two hands.
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    Re: Bow backstabs

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:04 am

    iirc = If I Remember Correctly.


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    Post by Yarxov on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:08 am

    Which I didn't silly
    My approximation was based on me simply not noticing any damage difference with my Chaos Darksword backstab on a Black knight between 2H or 1H.


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