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    Post by dooshka Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:35 am

    Well, it happened to me, and now I know why, they are clamping down on things folks, anyone caught using ANY MOD SOFTWARE, your console is banned, not temp,  but forever. I phoned and pleaded ignorant, to no avail, so take care everyone




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    Post by Dibsville Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:32 am

    They're banning us for using third party programs and tampering with the systems against the terms of service and user agreement?

    How dare they.
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    Post by Encore Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:34 am

    This is a useless thread. I am sorry, but the use of third party program is against their guidelines.

    Just follow the rules, which are outlined not only on most of their products, but also include common sense, and you will be fine.
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    Post by Halicarnassis Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:48 am

    C'mon Teh why is this useless? Its good to know that reporting modders is actually working. I feel sorry for dooshka but thems the breaks geezer. You get caught cheating and its good to know that grief reporting works - well done Sony
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    Post by Encore Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:49 am

    It is useless since it should be common knowledge not to break rules and guidelines.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:06 am

    Bad luck for you dooshka, but I have to say I agree with Sony here.
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    Post by Odinbear Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:53 am

    Correction. They are not banning US.  I am not part of the group that cheats.
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    Post by TheMeInTeam Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:37 am

    It's not a useless thread at all.  It shows that on ONE of the options to play this game, someone will actually lift a finger to stop cheaters.  This, along with XBONE, is probably enough to get me to switch over to playstation 4 instead of the MS trash where they let known hackers and glitchers roam free and only ban people for offensive content.  I suspect they don't have the means to detect and ban hackers on xbox, nor do they want to invest in attaining them.

    I guess this means people's time with MM is up though lol.  I guess if one REALLY wanted to cheat, they could still run BB + dupe glitches on a previous version or something then patch up, but it should prevent most of the worst stuff you see in MP from the actual hackers.

    Now, if only microsoft would do it too...
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    Post by Djem Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:21 am

    Hurray! If only this happened more, we wouldn't see so many MM users.
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    Post by Dibsville Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:22 am

    Djem wrote:Hurray! If only this happened more, we wouldn't see so many MM users.
    MM isn't a hack or cheat, it's just someone else's saved data.

    Unfortunately, people can't get banned for MM.
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    Post by RANT Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:33 am

    I hope everyone that uses the modded saved data(including the guy that made it) get banned, its stealing and illegal.
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    Post by Dibsville Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:40 am

    According to the User license and agreements, it's completely legal as long as he puts it up for other people to use.

    Sony is not associated with it.
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    Post by Djem Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:51 am

    Dibsville wrote:
    Djem wrote:Hurray! If only this happened more, we wouldn't see so many MM users.
    MM isn't a hack or cheat, it's just someone else's saved data.

    Unfortunately, people can't get banned for MM.

    Curses. Oh well.
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    Post by Exequim Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:52 am

    I can't judge him with the mighty hand of the downvote hammer. Why? =(
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    Post by RANT Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:56 am

    @dibs really? You're practically stealing the dlc and its not illegal? I wonder how from feels about that, or even namco.
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    Post by Dibsville Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:57 am

    RANT wrote:@dibs really? You're practically stealing the dlc and its not illegal? I wonder how from feels about that, or even namco.
    If I remember correctly, he removed all DLC warps and the Broken Pendant.

    You have to have the DLC to access it, but you still get the armour, weapons, and possibly the Silver Pendant.
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    Post by RANT Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:06 pm

    Don't you get the spells too? That's so lame.
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    Post by Dibsville Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:07 pm

    I think so.
    Either way, they don't get access to the DLC.
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    Post by Djem Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:14 pm

    They get the spells, the armor, the weapons. All there is left is actually defeating the bosses. It has to be illegal to do that.
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    Post by RANT Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:17 pm

    So they get everything out of the dlc in terms of items and that's not illegal? Wtf
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    Post by Dibsville Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:19 pm

    Why would that be illegal?
    You can already get all of it outside the DLC besides 4 spells?

    Does that mean it's illegal to be a giftwraith if the other person doesn't have the DLC?
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    Post by Serious_Much Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:21 pm

    Good.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:28 pm

    The spells being included would definitely count against it.  Everyone who has the patch they did right before the release or newer technically "has" the DLC.  The purchase was just an unlock key, aka a license.  That was done presumably so people who had the DLC could still interact with those who did not and there wouldn't be weird glitches due to some equipment and animations not being recognized by all parties.  They also did not lock the ability to drop and gift DLC items so none of that would likely be determined to be illegal.  All persons playing are SUPPOSED to be on the latest patch which means they have the DLC data.  The equipment is able to be obtained without purchasing the license and would not therefore be interpreted as theft most likely by a court.

    However, the addition of the spells is something that would only be attainable via actually exploring the DLC and it's obvious that was the developer's intention as they cannot be shared and they cannot be found without a trip through the DLC.  

    As a result, that does circumvent the purchase of the license and gives away something that not all parties technically have the right to have.


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    Post by RANT Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:28 pm

    @dibs because its stealing?Shrug
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    Post by Dibsville Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:30 pm

    I'm not going to defend the MM, I don't support it, so I'll just stop here.

    But first: What if he removed the four unobtainable spells and just left Pursuers in?

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