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    Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:52 pm

    Even after returning to Dark Souls, I started to find PvP boring once again. Much sooner than I hoped for. sad
     
    I'm looking for a new weapon.
    I went through Katanas, Rapier, Claymore, Zwei, Murakumo, Bow, SKS, MLGS, Pyros, Sorceries, Miracles, some Curved Swords and Large Club. All were fun, but all are dull.
    In DeS I was maining Blueblood Sword. I especially loved a combo you could use while two handing it.
    R1, R2, R1, R1, R2, R2.
    It wasn't the most practical, but I loved it and it looked sweet. I'd want something like that in DkS, but I'd just get Poise backstabbed before I can use that. :/

    Anyhow, I'm thinking about SKSS, but have some questions about it, especially since it got patched.

    How much Poise does it's attacks break? I'm trying to find any use for it's R2 attacks.
    It's criticals seem weak, even when compared to other similar weapons. Is it just me, or did it got nerfed? Perhaps due to having split Lightning damage before patch?
    Any useful tips on using it? I can's eseem to hit with it since it's a bit slower that other Straight Swords.

    Do you have any other fun weapons that you could recommend me to try?

    Thanks. happy

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by LunarFog on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:03 pm

    I'm not sure how much poise it breaks but it's a really good sword.  I use it's R2 to break blocks and it tends to break through a lot more frequently than any other straight sword.


    The black knight weapons are pretty bomb.

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:21 pm

    In what way did the SKSS get patched?

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:24 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:In what way did the SKSS get patched?
    If anything it got stronger...


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:26 pm

    No halberd? Jump  attack if done right is great for turtles and the 2h r2 is made for flippers.


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:28 pm

    The halberd. That is a underused but very effective weapon to use in the game.


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:29 pm

    But it's really OP.
    Only good if you're just bored enough to actually use it.


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by kazumoshi on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:35 pm

    Perhaps try a Greataxe? A lot of the boss weapons are great too. I've amused myself in the past by trying to land every attack of a weapon in a fight, no matter how impractical. (GLGS, GSoA, Stone Gaxe etc)


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:10 pm

    I should've specified I'm using this build.
    http://mmdks.com/2up4

    Str weapons are out of question. Sorry. Never was a big fan of them. Unless I Dead Angle, or bs spam, which I both refuse to do, I will and up getting roll bs'ed to death. At least that's what happens when I fight against them.

    Dagger is a nice idea. It's quite intimidating to have to get close enough to my opponent to use it. High bs risk for me and people did bs me a LOT, cos they thought I'm going for bs myself, but critical spam isn't fun for me. Since I can't buff it, it loses a lot of it's possible damage. I must say those R2 attacks are a big surprise and with Leo Ring do some decent damage. Still, not a weapon of my choosing and using it really turns the fight into bs fest, like it, or not. sad

    Haberd huh?
    Always hated guys using it. They all do the same two things. 2H R1 spam with attempt to stunlock you and 2H R2 upon wakeup. Very boring weapon. I gave i and Scythe a shot. Got roll bs'ed a LOT with them. I'm going to give Halberd a few more tries though. If nothing else, it is effective.

    SKSS had Divine Aux and split Lightning damage. Both got removed and it's now buffable instead.
    However, I think it's criticals are weak. BS does around 500, which seem really weak, especially considering it's 2H R2 does more damage. I was playing around with it and really love how the weapon looks, but it's very slow. I can't kick+R1 with it. But really, it's speed is a big problem for me. It's like a Claymore, but with less damage.

    Speaking of which, I tried good old trusty Claymore. I was surprised people can escape from kick+2H R1. I always get hit when MLGS user does this to me, but Claymore failed in half of the attempts. Strange...
    Also, it's 2H R1 to 2H R2 combo doesn't connect anymore. I always liked that. :/
    Not many roll bs, but I must say that hitting people with it is a chore. They just roll around like horny rabbits when they see me. Not even mentioning flippers. I never met so many as today. Reminded me of the days before DWGR patch. Pain in the *** these guys.  Especially those, that just flip around and do nothing. I end us BF spamming them, or stunlock bs them to death.


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Animaaal on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:26 pm

    Ricard's and Claw

    I'm having a blast with the claw. You can literally change direction mid-roll with the rolling attack. It's crazy fun. If you find a way to incorporate the thorn gauntlets, it's even more fun. cheers

    Ricard's is also a blast. The combo is deadly with a SLB or DMB buff, but definitely not necessary to deal good damage. Besides, you can use pine resin (as I'm sure you know) and it still deals good damage with that combo.

    Crystal Shield because...eh. I usually start my pvp encounters with that and swap it out accordingly.

    Good luck in finding the "fun" again bud. Bow
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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:44 pm

    I was using the regular Rapier for many months. I really the reach of it's R2. No recovery frames, reach of a spear, low Stamina consumption and most of all, if I meet a aggresive opponent, I can shield poke them to death. Not shy to use it at all. silly
    Out of all other Piercing Swords, it seems the best to me. Ricard's R2s are too prone to bs and parry imo. I tried Claw a few times and always failed miserably. Most people that used it against me also got either parried, or simply lost the trade. The same that happened to me.

    Halberd really proved to be pretty boring weapon. Sorry. sad
    Gonna give Animaaal's set a go now. ^^

    Thank you for helping me out guys.

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    Post by megaoptamas759 on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:52 pm

    Black knight greatsword: ok it's kinda slow but both 1h and 2hand r2 attacks (or rt for me) sends foes flying, but you need to be able to deadangle a little since bs fishers use this to get behind, try it out see what you think:thumbs up:


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:53 pm

    Dagger.
    Always Dagger.


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by megaoptamas759 on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:55 pm

    or try the shotel, thats a fun one to use


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:07 pm

    This is a weird one but have you tried the painting guardian sword?


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:11 pm

    Black Knight weapons have bad stat requirements for my build. I can use some of them though, but have to dual wield the most. I can Dead Angle, but I don't want to. I consider Dead Angles glitches and view them the same as spell swapping, dragon head and many other glitches. DAs are generally accepted and most guys I meet use them, however, to me, it's the same as buffing Stone Greatsword. I hate people that use it and I won't hesitate to heal and chain bs if I see it and refuse to use it myself.

    Dagger isn't really fun for me Dibs. Yes, I can kick+bs with it. But it's a lot similar to Rapier. Rapier can shield poke, Dagger can kick+bs. Other than that, they are way too similar. I was using Rapier for way too long, so I'd like a change from that.
    Since I'm at it, I should mention that I also had a Shotel as a second weapon, because people love to turtle a lot when you punish their mistakes with pokes, so I usually used Shotel to finish them off. Great weapon, but I would never use it as a primary weapon.

    EDIT:
    Yes, I tried PGS. It's great when you buff it. Better run away from something like that. big grin
    The thing is, I can't buff, so Gold Tracer does the same, with less damage, but lot more reach.
    Well, I can use Resins, but those add so little to my AR that it's not worth using at all.

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:36 pm

    Abyss Greatsword.

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:37 pm

    Pierce Shield.


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Sentiel on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:40 pm

    C'mon guys, you're getting silly.
    How can I use Arty's weapons with my stats?
    Why would I use a shield for a weapon. That's not effective at all, not to mention having crap moveset, which isn't fun.

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:42 pm

    Sentiel wrote:C'mon guys, you're getting silly.
    How can I use Arty's weapons with my stats?
    Why would I use a shield for a weapon. That's not effective at all, not to mention having crap moveset, which isn't fun.
    I think you're underestimating the Pierce Shield.
    That thing is OP.


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:53 pm

    I don't see anywhere it says anything about specific stats. Title says "help me pick a weapon." Not "I have these stats, help me pick a weapon."

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    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:57 pm

    TooLeet wrote:I don't see anywhere it says anything about specific stats. Title says "help me pick a weapon." Not "I have these stats, help me pick a weapon."
    Sentiel wrote:I should've specified I'm using this build.
    http://mmdks.com/2up4


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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:10 pm

    Oops. Read over the comments too must have skipped over that. My bad Sentiel.

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    Re: Help me choose a weapon

    Post by RANT on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:18 pm

    If you took a long break then came back and got bored again then it might be time to play something else.


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