Duel Wielding or Shields

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    Is a shield better than duel-wielding?

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    Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Eko on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:04 am

    I was wandering what the community's opinion is on whether or not duel-wielding is better, the same or worse than using a shield. In my opinion they are equal options as a shield allows for solid defense but duel-wielding provides a much wider range of attacks. Also if you do vote please make a post explaining why you chose that option.

    EDIT: I'm thinking about in the context of a duel and not hunting gankers or things of that nature.


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:06 am

    I can't vote, because it's purely situational which one is better.

    Going to have to go for "Same"


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by robsthedon on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:47 am

    It's a good question, I think it depends on your playstyle / weapon choices, it's nice to be able to attack with both hands, and nice to be able to set up parry. I use a shield mostly but very rarely use it for blocking, unless I'm using a rapier, i just like to have it. I think shield may just have the edge atm for me, but the jury is still out.


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by twigsterxd on Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:11 am

    Like Dibs said, it's situational. Depending on what type of build you're up against depends on choice. Can't choose 1 over the other and same doesn't make sense because dual wielding is not the same as shielding. Shielding protects you while dual wielding doesn't protect you as well as shielding. Also, you get a more powerful hit from dual wielding. They aren't the same at all. Can't vote on this one


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:12 am

    twigsterxd wrote:Like Dibs said, it's situational. Depending on what type of build you're up against depends on choice. Can't choose 1 over the other and same doesn't make sense because dual wielding is not the same as shielding. Shielding protects you while dual wielding doesn't protect you as well as shielding. Also, you get a more powerful hit from dual wielding. They aren't the same at all. Can't vote on this one
    Same was the closest to "neither" that I could get. Shrug


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Sneezer on Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:29 am

    Dual wielding matches shields in many scenarios, but shields are much more effective in certain ones. I can't think of any scenario where dual-wielding noticably out-performs shields. So I go with shields.


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:38 am

    Sneezer wrote:Dual wielding matches shields in many scenarios, but shields are much more effective in certain ones. I can't think of any scenario where dual-wielding noticably out-performs shields. So I go with shields.
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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Carphil on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:21 am

    none! Bare hands for parrying!


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:53 am

    I find myself never using L1. Period. I don't know why. And i don't remember the last time i used a medium shield. It's either dark hand, target shield, or curved sword. I could care less about blocking. I'd rather hit L2. But, seeing as i do use a target shield more than a curved sword for parrying i'd have to say shield.  But not for blocking.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:56 am

    TooLeet wrote:I find myself never using L1. Period. I don't know why. And i don't remember the last time i used a medium shield. It's either dark hand, target shield, or curved sword. I could care less about blocking. I'd rather hit L2. But, seeing as i do use a target shield more than a curved sword for parrying i'd have to say shield.  But not for blocking.
    I've noticed that most of my deaths recently are because I just sit there and take a hit for no reason even though I have plenty of stamina, a shield, and fast roll.

    Who needs L1 when you have L2 mashing.


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:00 pm

    Dibsville wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:I find myself never using L1. Period. I don't know why. And i don't remember the last time i used a medium shield. It's either dark hand, target shield, or curved sword. I could care less about blocking. I'd rather hit L2. But, seeing as i do use a target shield more than a curved sword for parrying i'd have to say shield.  But not for blocking.
    I've noticed that most of my deaths recently are because I just sit there and take a hit for no reason even though I have plenty of stamina, a shield, and fast roll.

    Who needs L1 when you have L2 mashing.


    Sarcasm?

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:02 pm

    TooLeet wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:Who needs L1 when you have L2 mashing.


    Sarcasm?
    This part?

    No, no sarcasm there.


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:03 pm

    I lied, i do block. Maybe once every 5 matches and for a total of 2.5 seconds. That "block the first hit and right away hit L2" for dem r1 spammers. Ya dig.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:04 pm

    I lied too.

    About having enough stamina.

    I'm a stamina consumption slut.


    I never have enough.


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:08 pm

    Me too. I constantly roll around in different directions unlocked to mess with people. They never know what the hell i'm doing until they come at me and get a blade to the face. Works good for BS's and it's not fishing. As soon as they come at me and swing if i'm already rolling i can just roll bs them. They get frustrated and make mistakes. Mind games yo.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:10 pm

    I don't BS, I just punish. I learned from NG+7 boss fights that punishing works even better than simply ending the fight faster.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:26 pm

    Word. I might make that build. Looks legit.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:29 pm

    TooLeet wrote:Word. I might make that build. Looks legit.
    I never really got into using Velka's Rapier much until I forced myself to do it on that build.

    When I solo'd Artorias on NG++ with it without healing, and when I learned that the R2's on it have insane phantom damage in PvP, I never looked back.


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:37 pm

    I've tried using rapiers but got bored. I never really took it seriously.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:40 pm

    As a general weapon the Rapier is amazing. It's always funny to watch people get caught off guard by a good Rapier user.

    It was even funnier when Sentiel wrecked me with a Rapier, even though I knew not to underestimate them. ;_;


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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:43 pm

    Yeah, i've been destroyed by rapiers quite a few times. Sometimes there was just nothing i could do. Gradually just get poked to death, get frustrated, make mistakes, and die. But, it's been a long time since that's happened. I might brush the cobwebs off my rapier build or make another one.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:46 pm

    Do you have a build for just a rapier without magic? Or what would be the best rapier for a dex build? Or should i say what's the best rapier and stats to go with it.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by LunarFog on Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:09 pm

    shield is better.  It's more useful in more situations, so it's pretty undeniable.

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    Re: Duel Wielding or Shields

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:17 pm

    I don't mind duel-wielding a curved sword as a change of pace on occasion, but as far as effectiveness goes....shield all the way.


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