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    SL10 Undead Parish invasions and turtle tactics

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    Post by wretchedsausage Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:44 pm

    I invaded 20 or 30 people today, and EVERY SINGLE ONE was either ganking, or was turtling like there's no tomorrow. Was this just bad luck, or is the same for everyone?

    Also, any tips for beating a turtle? I generally just try to parry or backstab, but are there other ways to do it?
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    Post by Wilkinson3424 Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:55 pm

    Bleed weapons, and poise, keep slashing them the pressure of the bleed will make them run off.
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    Post by Uparkaam Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:15 pm

    At that SL you're gonna find lots of people doing co-op with phantoms in the Parish.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:22 pm

    just did a bunch of sl 10 invasions there, almost all were solo and a few were in ng+ despite my character being lvl 10... in one case a host and phantom locked me on one side of the parish gate and stripped down to their loincloths and proceeded to moon me in unison.
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:43 pm

    My Favorite, Elemental Shotel, most people don't even seem to know what it does.
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    Post by LunarFog Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:10 pm

    Patience?  Elemental chip damage, poison/toxin, shotel, KICKING.


    There's literally dozens of ways to beat a turtler.
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    Post by jaythibodeau Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:18 am

    Use a Great Scythe. It's running R1s make for a great tactic to beat turtles. It does bleed, and constantly keeps the pressure on em.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:48 am

    Dead angles. Unlock and swing a weapon with a wide horizontal attack arc while facing to the side or away from the opponent. In PvP the two players have to be facing for blocks to work so if you hit the enemy while looking away you bypass their shield.
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    Post by wretchedsausage Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:38 am

    http://mmdks.com/2u3u
    This is my build

    This is the build I am using for the "fair" invasion event next month, so I only want to use weapons which fit into this category. https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t22317-invasions-101-invasion-of-the-lowbies-event-7-13-7-14 link to the thread and rulles. 

    @uparkaam, They weren't just co-oping though, whenever I would invade there would be the "summoning phantom" message, letting me know that they were bringing in a surprise just for me.
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    Post by Elifia Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:10 am

    wretchedsausage wrote:http://mmdks.com/2u3u
    This is my build

    This is the build I am using for the "fair" invasion event next month, so I only want to use weapons which fit into this category. https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t22317-invasions-101-invasion-of-the-lowbies-event-7-13-7-14 link to the thread and rulles. 

    @uparkaam, They weren't just co-oping though, whenever I would invade there would be the "summoning phantom" message, letting me know that they were bringing in a surprise just for me.
    Just because they summoned someone after you invaded doesn't mean they are ganking. Quite the opposite actually. If they're ganking, the phantom probably was summoned several PvP fights ago, and they'll have cleared the area.

    People in Undead Parish do not want to PvP. They want help with Gargoyles. Just because you invaded doesn't mean they'll suddenly stop summoning other people, because they aren't looking for a fair PvP fight, they are looking for PvE co-op. You're just in the way.
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    Post by wretchedsausage Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:19 am

    Thing is, they summon as I arrive. this happened many times, so it's not a coincidence, they are doing it to give them the upper hand.
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    Post by Elifia Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:38 am

    Well, then that just means they didn't finish summoning before you arrived. I've summoned people in Parish very often (though not because I needed the help. I'm in NG+++++ so I just like seeing how those people in OP gear deal with OP mobs), and often enough I was invaded right in the middle of the summoning. It happens especially when I get some failed summons.

    And why would gankers wait with summoning people until they have already been invaded anyway?
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    Post by Leet Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:58 pm

    Dead angle. Boom, roasted.
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    Post by Leet Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:06 pm

    wretchedsausage wrote:Thing is, they summon as I arrive. this happened many times, so it's not a coincidence, they are doing it to give them the upper hand.
     

    Everytime i do low level invasions in the church, as soon as i come into their world at least 15 seconds later it says "summoning phantom." Most of the time it's a new guy just trying to figure out the game and he gets invaded. When i first started playing if i got invaded there i'd always run and summon someone to help because i was scared of losing my 2000 points and 5 humanity i worked hard for. Granted, this isn't always the case but at an area like that most of the time it is. Now, when you invade and there's 3 guys sitting there geared up with good armor and big weapons, that's when you're about to be ganked. Somebody said nobody does PVP there, which isn't true. Some of the best players in the game PVP there. Not the "best" but they're very good. Usually set up matches and such i've just so happen to invade.

    Lot's of uploads from The Brigade, Sunlight Blade, MrIWontForget, ENB, and Ellitti (sp?) on youtube all fighting there.
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    Post by reim0027 Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:09 pm

    Most people at a low level (new players) will block obsessively. Don't forget about poison darts or dung pies. Dead angles, shotel, GC, bleed, and kicks as well.
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    Post by wretchedsausage Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:47 pm

    OK, thanks everyone for your help happy

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