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    Post by wretchedsausage Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:01 am

    The purpose of this thread is to clarify which weapons are considered Strength weapons, which are considered Dexterity weapons, and which are considered Quality weapons. This is designed to be a resource for all those who are unsure as to which category a certain weapon fits into, or who just want a list of weapons which would be more suited to their build or play-style.

    The information will be set out as such:

    Weapon Type:
    Weapon Name:
    Requirements: strength/dexterity/intelligence/faith
    Weapon Scaling: strength/dexterity/intelligence/faith
    Weapon Scaling at maximum normal upgrade: strength/dexterity/intelligence/faith
    Base damage: physical/magic/fire/lightning



    If you feel I have made a mistake, or if there are any additions or changes which you would like to see happen, feel free to let me know. Your input would be greatly appreciated.


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    Post by wretchedsausage Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:01 am

    STRENGTH WEAPONS
     
    Daggers
     
    Daggers:
     

    Greatswords
     

    Greatswords:

     
    Ultra Greatswords


    Ultra Greatswords:
     

    Curved Swords
     
    Curved Swords:

     
    Curved Greatswords

    Curved Greatswords:
     
     
    Axes

    Axes:
      

    Great Axes
     
    Great Axes:
     

    Hammers
     
    Hammers:
     

    Great Hammers
     
    Great Hammers:
     

    Fist Weapons
     
    Fist Weapons:
     

    Halberds
     
    Halberds:


    Greatbows
     
    Greatbows:


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    Post by wretchedsausage Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:01 am

    DEXTERITY WEAPONS
     
    Daggers
     
    Daggers:
     


    Straight Swords
     
    Straight Swords:
     


    Greatswords
     
    Greatswords:
     


    Curved Swords
     
    Curved Swords:
     


    Katanas
     
    Katanas:
     


    Piercing Swords
     
    Piercing Swords:
     


    Axes
     
    Axes:
     


    Fist Weapons
     
    Fist Weapons:
     


    Spears
     
    Spears:
     


    Halberds
     
    Halberds:
     


    Whips
     
    Whips:
     


    Bows
     
    Bows:


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    Post by wretchedsausage Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:01 am

    Quality Weapons


    COMING SOON


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    Post by wretchedsausage Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:01 am

    Other Weapons

    COMING SOON


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    Post by wretchedsausage Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:02 am

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    Post by Hart Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:19 am

    Just throwing this idea out there, you could possibly just keep it as one post with the headings:

    Strength

    Dexterity

    Quality

    and place the weapons you feel fit into each category under the suitable heading, then embedding a link to the weapons page on the Wiki, as it has all the stats you mention in your OP and more besides. It will also be IMO a more approachable thread for new-comers (possibly the most likely to need a resource like this) as they won't just be staring at a bunch of numbers and words, but a neatly laid-out wiki page.

    For example: Great Scythe under the Dexterity heading.


    EDIT: Now that I see it all done up, it sure does look sexy though big grin


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    Post by Dibsville Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:23 am

    Nicely done.
    This will be very helpful later on. :D


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    Post by VaDoom Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:35 am

    ^I would add Zweihander in quality weapons too
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    Post by Dibsville Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:37 am

    It has larger Strength scaling than Dexterity scaling. If you were going to judge them based on being one scale off, you would have to add a ton to the quality area, including things that are obviously more based on a stat such as the Estoc or the Warpick.
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    Post by wretchedsausage Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:38 am

    This is still a work in progress. I should have the rest done by this time tomorrow, but I can't make any promises.

    @Hart; you're probably right, but I spent so much time making this, I'd rather keep it like this.
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    Post by VaDoom Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:49 am

    @Dibs That's true. I would classify zwei in quality for it's effectiveness regarding a quality build.
    For exemple, zwei is much more a quality weapon than barbed straight sword is imo.
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    Post by Dibsville Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:52 am

    Barbed Straight Sword is much more of a quality weapon than Zwei is.
    Just because it has lower base damage doesn't mean it's any less of a quality weapon.
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    Post by VaDoom Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:46 am

    ^I said imo.
    And is still believe so.

    Edit : And just because it's different scaling between STR and DEX doesn't mean it can't be classified as quality.
    imo again, the barbed straight sword is a almost a broadsword with worse scaling + bleed. That can be good, but I feel that it's better for an elemental build because of this.
    I would add zwei in the quality section because it's at least as much a quality weapon as a strength weapon. But maybe I'm just playing on words here happy
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    Post by ICEFANG Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:51 pm

    I have always considered the Pike to be more of a quality weapon. Its true that it gets its power from DEX, but at 24 and 10 weight, its pretty needy for END and STR as well. Just like how I consider the Dragon Slayer Spear, which of course is not really quality per say, is. I think stat requirements should be a consideration.
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    Post by RANT Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:00 pm

    Weapons like the zwei that scale C/D are quality since they don't get full ar untill 40/40.

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