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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:44 am

    Sneezer wrote:The GLGS is a powerful choice in a quality build due to it having the highest AR of the greatswords, if you can get by without R2s.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Sneezer on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:50 am

    Dibsville wrote:Actually, the Bastard Sword is only barely outdamaged by the GLGS, except when two-handed the BS outdamages GLGS.


    The GLGS has the highest base AR, only being beaten out by 1 point when two handed.
    Though arguing for the sake of arguing is pointless.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:51 am

    Sneezer wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:Actually, the Bastard Sword is only barely outdamaged by the GLGS, except when two-handed the BS outdamages GLGS.


    The GLGS still has the highest AR anyway, even when two handing the bastard sword.

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    You put it in the left hand. Obviously can't 2h something in your left hand besides a Bow or Greatbow.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Sneezer on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:52 am

    I did, you posted before my edit, it would seem.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:55 am

    I'm too tired to know what I'm doing currently, so don't take what I'm saying too far.

    Don't forget that it also weighs 2.0 less and has the stunlock moveset. 1AR or not, it's better just from those two things alone.

    Oh, and it can be buffed.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Sneezer on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:58 am

    Dibsville wrote:I'm too tired to know what I'm doing currently, so don't take what I'm saying too far.

    Don't forget that it also weighs 2.0 less and has the stunlock moveset. 1AR or not, it's better just from those two things alone.

    Oh, and it can be buffed.


    I had never said that the GLGS was the best greatsword, nor do I think it is. The entire point of that post was to compare the OGS and GLGS, but apparently you missed that.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:00 am

    You also missed my point, but again, I'm too tired to think about what I'm doing. Seriously, don't take what I say too far.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Sneezer on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:05 am

    Your point is that the GLGS only 'sort of' has the highest AR, which I see is now true, and that there are much more practical and diverse greatswords, which I acknowledge. I was merely attempting to speak from a purely objective perspective in my comparison of the two weapons. 

    But yes, I won't take what you're saying too far, so I digress.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:34 am

    man serpent greatsword should be taken into consideration. @27str it does 430+/520+ dmg. yeah it's heavy, but it has an awesome moveset (unlike the other two swords).
    ot: i like the glgs, its R2s aren't that bad. if you keep your spacing and manually aim them they can be pretty glorious, the recovery after the attack is pretty good. of course the typical roll Bs will punish it, but what doesn't get punished by it when theory-fighting?


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by raecor14 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:08 am

    OSG is better, it dose more damage at base (the only way you shouls ever use this sword) and can be buffed, its 2HR2 is also effected by the buff, on my mage that uses it i do about 700 HP per hit.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by JohnnyHarpoon on Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:34 am

    Dibsville wrote:Yes, the GLGS is a ******* copy of it.

    The only difference is the DBS was actually viable, the GLGS is for R1 stunlocks.

    I always saw the Demon Great Machete as more of the DBS in Dark Souls.  Not moveset-wise at all, I mean - purely aesthetically speaking (and just generally lamer).

    Still, I'd probably agree and vote OGS because of moveset.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by robsthedon on Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:38 am

    The GLGS is best, the OGS gets boring real quick.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Walter_White on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:33 am

    JohnnyHarpoon wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:Yes, the GLGS is a ******* copy of it.

    The only difference is the DBS was actually viable, the GLGS is for R1 stunlocks.

    I always saw the Demon Great Machete as more of the DBS in Dark Souls.  Not moveset-wise at all, I mean - purely aesthetically speaking (and just generally lamer).

    Still, I'd probably agree and vote OGS because of moveset.

    There is nothing like the DBS in Dark Souls sad
    Curse that blunt peace of steel and 2h roll+r1 ....u have to run to the flying guy to get your hit while he gets up, cause he was throw 15 feet away and now around 1000 hp down...

    But here i agree with the majority OGS all the way. Love that thing on my sl55 in AL invasion, nice to make a trap with the 2h r2 and good moveset.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Glutebrah on Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:35 pm

    i like the GLGS simply due to looks.  the OGS is far to ugly for me to ever actually use it.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:47 pm

    Sneezer wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:It's an obviously choice. No need to look deep into it. Shrug

    I personally feel that there should be at least one relatively in-depth response to a question thread, rather than random opinions. Regardless of how obvious the answer may be to you, it may not be obvious to the person asking the question. It's better to give an explanation than to purely say someone is wrong or mistaken, and not give any actual basis.


    You are a very uptight individual. Relax. Every thread you post in you come off in a negative "i'm better than everyone else" kind of way.

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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:07 pm

    xenon_nobelium wrote:man serpent greatsword should be taken into consideration. @27str it does 430+/520+ dmg. yeah it's heavy, but it has an awesome moveset (unlike the other two swords).

    OGS has the same moveset as MSGS except for the 2h R2, which is arguably better.
    Bastard Sword also has the same moveset.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Sneezer on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:18 pm

    TooLeet wrote:You are a very uptight individual. Relax. Every thread you post in you come off in a negative "i'm better than everyone else" kind of way.
    Necessary evil. And I'm definitely not better than everyone else.
    Of course, saying what kind of person I am based on a couple of posts I made isn't very accurate.

    Anywho, in case my point wasn't clear before, the OGS is a better choice because you can have a much more diverse build when you use it.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:20 pm

    Sneezer wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:You are a very uptight individual. Relax. Every thread you post in you come off in a negative "i'm better than everyone else" kind of way.
    Necessary evil. And I'm definitely not better than everyone else.
    Of course, saying what kind of person I am based on a couple of posts I made isn't very accurate.

    Anywho, in case my point wasn't clear before, the OGS is a better choice because you can have a much more diverse build when you use it.
    Definitely do not post in that kind of way. Your arguments are completely normal, and you get your point through.

    You're doing it right.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Leet on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:28 pm

    Sneezer wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:You are a very uptight individual. Relax. Every thread you post in you come off in a negative "i'm better than everyone else" kind of way.
    Necessary evil. And I'm definitely not better than everyone else.
    Of course, saying what kind of person I am based on a couple of posts I made isn't very accurate.

    Anywho, in case my point wasn't clear before, the OGS is a better choice because you can have a much more diverse build when you use it.

    Just a first impression. Granted this is the internet. Carry on Proper Bow


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Animaaal on Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:13 pm

    The OGS always reminds me of Indian arrowheads...I love it, I think it looks cool...especially for Dark Souls stuff....masks anyone? sick
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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Shakie666 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:36 pm

    Hmm, its a close run thing... the OGS has an arguably better moveset (and I don't know who'd be arguing against that proposition, seriously the GLGS R2 attacks are complete :dung:), looks better and is buffable. However, the GLGS has lower stat requirements and can still stunlock.

    Slight tangent here: I never used GS's in pvp before they were nerfed, so could someone tell me; were they powerful enough to warrant a nerf? I just wonder because people still use them all the time, despite being one of the few weapon classes that can't stunlock.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Animaaal on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:52 pm

    A lot of people say no.

    -You could always toggle escape.

    -Most Heavy weapons are vulnerable to roll bs.

    Personally, I don't think anything should stunlock beyond 2-3 hits.  I don't think anything under 10 lbs. should stunlock at all.
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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword VS Great Lord Greatsword

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:53 pm

    They definitely needed the nerf, but unfortunately they nerfed it way too much.


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