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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Reaperfan on Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:29 am

    Sentiel wrote:Also, it's a WAY better system than to have hyper armor on big fat Str weapons like DeS had.

    I respectfully disagree pony01


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:53 am

    Reaperfan wrote:The way it was in Demon's Souls (and it DID EXIST IN THAT GAME)


    I am Saturday-Saint.  I have played Demon's Souls for over 3 years have spent thousands of hours in it and I name you, Reaperfan, a liar.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:01 am

    Isn't poise meant to represent the hardiness of armour's ability to shrug off certain attacks. Full suits of plate mail would have swords glance and ricochet off them. Seems a good system and one I'd like to have back. Also it adds an element of sacrifice vs mobility. My only gripe is that the wolf ring is pretty high in poise but that's for another thread.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:02 am

    Btw I agree with Saturday above in his point. Sorry reaper


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Sentiel on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:02 am

    It's here ladies and gentleman.

    In the right corner is ever so cute MLP brony Reaperfan.
    Aaaand...
    In the left corner is Priscilla cross-my-breed hotness Saturday-Saint.

    May the first to backstab win.

    RING!

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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Dibsville on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:03 am

    Sentiel wrote:It's here ladies and gentleman.

    In the right corner is ever so cute MLP brony Reaperfan.
    Aaaand...
    In the left corner is Priscilla cross-my-breed hotness Saturday-Saint.

    May the first to backstab win.

    RING!

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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:04 am

    Sexiest bout since Ali-Foreman.

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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Sargerus on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:06 am

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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Dibsville on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:07 am

    Lol +1


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:11 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Sexiest bout since Ali-Foreman.



    Are you alluding to the "Rumble in the Jungle" where Ali just waited out Foreman until he got tired and then destroyed him?

    I'd prefer WAR to be fair... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5rnxsMvXM0 one of the best fights ever!


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by skarekrow13 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:49 am

    I like the revised look of the "critical from behind attacks" they showed (they're not all backstabs after all so why do we call them that?)

    I can't listen to the audio (at work)...did they state if the new classes were intended to be more tied into the character permanently (like older RPGs....a mage stayed a mage) or is it just more dramatic starting tendencies?

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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Seignar on Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:13 am

    What is so irrevocably bad about Poise that it warrants a complete elimination? If you played Demon Souls you'd know that armor as nowhere near as important than in Dark Souls. Sure, Dark Souls could have done a few things better with regards to breakpoints and, more importantly, the sacrifices required to get high poise (FaP and Wolf Ring kind of ruined it).

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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:18 am

    @skare - they didnt say anything about it at all mate

    @siegnar - totally agree about the wolf ring. Its got more poise than the Iron Set does... that's not right at all by my book.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Animaaal on Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:38 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:So, like, is nobody else massively disappointed by this?








    Maybe... 

    However this ain't wikidot or pretoadie, just in case your confused.

    When Dark Souls came out, you and your "buddies" tried to ruin the forums every chance you got. ie this suks, this game suks, I think something sucks and its this game, I'll never play this for more than a month...blahblahblah.

    The game doesn't come out for 9 months and already with this?  You guys moaned and moaned about the summoning system upon release.  Whats next?....mift about dedicated servers???

    Seriously Saint, I think you need less souls and more something else.  Its time for you to move on, or support the games you play.

    You are the worst complainer I've EVER seen.  Its like saying how much you hate beef while chewing jerky all day.  Its old man, really old...so....so............old.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Reaperfan on Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:39 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:
    Reaperfan wrote:The way it was in Demon's Souls (and it DID EXIST IN THAT GAME)




    I am Saturday-Saint.  I have played Demon's Souls for over 3 years have spent thousands of hours in it and I name you, Reaperfan, a liar.

    Then you consider the hyper-armor tied to the startup of Great Hammer and Greataxe attacks as something other than what Dark Souls calls poise?


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Sentiel on Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:44 pm

    I always moan about the same things.

    ~Different, less realistic colour palette.
    ~Shockwave upon arrow hit and poor bow and ranged weapons handling.
    ~Projectile speed, of all kind.
    ~Strange character movement, most notably sliding on the floor when the character walks.
    ~Little info about online. Human - Soul/Hollow form system in particular.

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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:05 pm

    Thought those classes looked really good, dual swordsman starter was obviously awesome. I really liked how the magic looked, especially that spell sword attack(which I think it's really cool they might be incorporating the catalyst more). I'm wondering if they're ditching pyro class? Wish we got see the miracles, but glad it sounds like faith is back to being mainly a support/heal based warrior. The armor also looked amazing. Pretty hyped, this looks great. Not too worried about the new director anymore.
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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:00 pm

    I wont moan about a thing. I'm just creaming my pants for the whole time I have to waiut.. God I hope they release the demo on download like they did Dragon Dogma. I polayed that baby every night for a weeks! lol!


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Onion Knight on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:35 pm

    Animaaal wrote:You are the worst complainer I've EVER seen.  Its like saying how much you hate beef while chewing jerky all day.  Its old man, really old...so....so............old.

    Game fan forums are usually where excitement for said game goes to die. No matter what genre or series. Just avoid threads like this, it'll save you needlessly wasting time.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Encore on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:44 pm

    I have been doubtful about this game, but from what i´ve heard the latest weeks it will at least turn out well.

    Perhaps not super good, we´ve yet to learn about that.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:48 pm

    It is a bit early still for me to complain about this game. I do have some gripes but I don't see any of mine worth complaining about.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:51 pm

    I'm not sure how you can hate on poise; even WITH it, the lighter builds won out over heavier ones often enough in competitive play.  How many people are willing to fat roll?  The only real issue there is how relatively easy it was at PvP levels to attain fast rolling with high poise.

    If you want balance between weapon types and armors, some form of poise is a good thing for the game, not a bad thing.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Encore on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:59 pm

    I watched the part over and over again.

    It does not seem as if the player character blocked it, but as dibs said there is a loss of stamina. Probably successful block.

    Even with that, perhaps they´ve redid the poise system?


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:03 pm

    The weapons look slower, but the dodge looks almost the same speed. Can't say I like that, if its true anyways. 

     The crit animation is stupid.

    The magic looks good though, I want a lightsaber.


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    Re: gg FROMSoft

    Post by Dibsville on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:06 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:The weapons look slower, but the dodge looks almost the same speed. Can't say I like that, if its true anyways. 

     The crit animation is stupid.

    The magic looks good though, I want a lightsaber.
    All this.


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