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    Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by kozak on Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:45 am

    So I have a question regarding upgrading by composite bow and secondary winged spear.

    For the following character with 30 dex would it be better to go with the chaos composite bow or the occult composite bow, both have split dmg but the chaos bow when combined with fire arrows outclasses the occult bow. Are there any benefits to occult version at this dex level, other then it not needing 10 humanity.

    I also have a similar question about spears, I am using my +15 spear along with DMB buff as my primary weapon. However I need a secondary weapon to switch to when the buff runs out, which of the above upgrade paths do you think would be best? Or am I better of just using the +15 version even when the buff is gone?

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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by LunarFog on Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:06 pm

    I'd go with the chaos bow. I'd also go with the chaos spear. I believe they'd outpower normal upgrades.

    Edit: Although to be honest, having 30 dex and then using elemental weapons seems like a huge waste.

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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by Leet on Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:40 pm

    I'd go with lightning just because you're gonna do split damage either way, and there's a lot of armors with awesome fire resistance but not so much lightening. It'll be a marginal difference but that's just how i think about it.


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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by Animaaal on Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:55 pm

    TooLeet wrote:I'd go with lightning just because you're gonna do split damage either way, and there's a lot of armors with awesome fire resistance but not so much lightening. It'll be a marginal difference but that's just how i think about it.

    Not to mention shields. I still use chaos for style points though.
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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by Jansports on Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:34 pm

    I'd use Chaos for the bow, and with 30dex I'd think the +15 would perform better than an elemental, so I'd go with that as well.
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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by Leet on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:16 pm

    Most of the time i choose chaos too. Depending on my mood lol.


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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by kozak on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:43 am

    LunarFog wrote:Edit: Although to be honest, having 30 dex and then using elemental weapons seems like a huge waste.

    As I said my primary weapon is a +15 spear with DMB, these are meant as auxiliary weapons to use after DMB wears off.

    On that note, at what point would you say physical damage outclasses elemental damage due to not being split. For example as you can see here a +15 winged spear at 30 dex has a damage rating of 337 and a chaos winged spear has damage rating of 450.
    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=aHVudGVyLDMxLDE2LDQyLDEzLDMwLDExLDksMzAsMjUsNDcsNDcsNDQsNDcsMzEsMyw4Myw4MywxMDUsMTA1LG5vcm1hbCxjaGFvcyxub3JtYWwsY2hhb3MsMCw2MSw0Niw1OCw2MiwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMyx3b29kZW4sZmlyZWEsbGFyZ2UsZmlyZWEsMSwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCww

    Now of course damage dealt will depend on the particular defenses of an enemy, but on average which would you say should sink more damage consistently?
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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by Myztyrio on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:50 am

    I'd say with 30+ dex is the point where normal +15 will outclass lightning or chaos(at least with high scaling weapons). If we're talking composite bows, I'd go with chaos.


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    Re: Bow and Spear upgrades

    Post by kozak on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:35 am

    I have not yet added any dex beyond the weapon requirements, and another thing I am considering is forgoing dex and DMB all together and instead simply having 3 elemental spears one chaos one lightning and one divine, and use and use whichever seems more effective against a given opponent. In turn I can pump my stats into vitality hitting the 50 soft cap, and it would free up an attunment slot.

    Does anyone think this is a better idea, at least for the SL100 build. If I end up taking this character to 120 then I can get the 30 dex and re-institute DMB.

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