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    The best weapons to use in pvp?

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    Post by Lmaousine Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:08 pm

    SirArchmage wrote:Whether or not you get parried depends on your predictability, as people that are good don't spam the parry button enough for them to be kicked.

    Also, you cannot use how difficult it is as a factor. Plenty of things that are harder to get are used much more often in PvP. Ever farmed for 80 ears in the Darkmoon covenant?
    It's easy to farm ears from harpies, but very boring.
    And what is harder to get that is used for PvP?
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    Post by SirArchmage Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:26 pm

    Lmaousine wrote:
    SirArchmage wrote:Whether or not you get parried depends on your predictability, as people that are good don't spam the parry button enough for them to be kicked.

    Also, you cannot use how difficult it is as a factor. Plenty of things that are harder to get are used much more often in PvP. Ever farmed for 80 ears in the Darkmoon covenant?
    It's easy to farm ears from harpies, but very boring.
    And what is harder to get that is used for PvP?
    Evelyn, Pursuers, two black flames and two dark beads, fully upgraded maiden or knight set, +5 chaos weapons, +3 DMB, +3 Dragon form, Life hunt scythe, Red eye orb at low level, Chaos Tempest, Black knight armor. The list is long.
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    Post by Lmaousine Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:43 pm

    SirArchmage wrote:
    Lmaousine wrote:
    SirArchmage wrote:Whether or not you get parried depends on your predictability, as people that are good don't spam the parry button enough for them to be kicked.

    Also, you cannot use how difficult it is as a factor. Plenty of things that are harder to get are used much more often in PvP. Ever farmed for 80 ears in the Darkmoon covenant?
    It's easy to farm ears from harpies, but very boring.
    And what is harder to get that is used for PvP?
    Evelyn, Pursuers, two black flames and two dark beads, fully upgraded maiden or knight set, +5 chaos weapons, +3 DMB, +3 Dragon form, Life hunt scythe, Red eye orb at low level, Chaos Tempest, Black knight armor. The list is long.
    The only hard one that I agree with is the red eye orb at low level, four kings are a pain, everything else just requires farming/phantoms/carefulness
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    Post by TheMeInTeam Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:47 pm

    Kirk isn't particularly threatening by himself, even near that ledge (in fact it's generally trivial to block him once, then kick him off it).

    Only with the witch is he really a problem, but she has no poise and is easy enough to kill quickly, alternatively you can open the shortcut, kill her hollow, then revive if this is really too difficult lol.

    I consider getting AoT much less tedius than farming for any upgrade material of relevance, or heck even farming enough souls for ascended pyro +5. On my last run I killed the witch with a crossbow before kirk even made it to me, then just parried him like every other time.

    Anyway, estoc fishing is a game of paper/rock/scissors between backstab attempts of different varieties, parrying, and just pokes from behind the shield (and if they parry at the wrong time themselves...backstabbed!). I like the idea of force tick-stabs on such a trolly build too, definitely worth the couple stat points as it's just another wrinkle. I don't actually have such a build, though I've cheesed a bit with hornet rapiers in different settings.

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