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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Halicarnassis on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:30 pm

    Waaahahah! Thats brilliant!


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:43 pm

    Definitely if you can BS or parry people consistently a lightning or chaos rapier (estoc if you have the dex) with hornet ring is a good way for a low SL to put down a high SL guy. That freaking hurts.
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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Halicarnassis on Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:25 pm

    Man the amount of griefers and hackers in the burg tonight!!


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Jansports on Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:40 pm

    reim0027 wrote:As far as joining the Darkwraith covenant, go for it. Beathing the 4 kings at SL 10 will be a challenge, but rewarding. But, I have a SL 6 that has access to Kaathe. I can get you 198 cracked eye orbs.

    As far as the Dusk items, I'm still against it. In my low level invading, I rarely saw them, if ever. That right there is enough reason not to have them. Not every style of build will be useful at this low SL. But, part of the fun would be trying. The mentality is way different than higher SL builds. You will have a weak build, but so will the hosts.

    And, to keep things simple, upgrades can only be with shards, no large shards can be used.

    I guess I'll just have to deal with the fact that certain builds are just going to be awful, while other builds will be good.

    we're allowed the Lizards in the great hallow correct?
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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:00 pm

    TheMeInTeam wrote:Question:

    For simplicity's sake, can we use items that would be starting items on at least 1 build?
    I agree. Every starting class armor should be allowed, since it is available at the start of the game when you are selecting your class.

    I think we've got it covered. I'll clean up the rules, again, and contact stiff to get a finalized weapon/armor spreadsheet.

    Any ideas on a good weekend for this?

    Edit: Kellog = Quelaag


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by StiffNipples on Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:41 pm

    I'll fix it up tonight, didn't end up getting home until late last night and decided to make a fencer build instead of reading through this thread and fixing it, sorry had a slack attack


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:46 pm

    StiffNipples wrote:I'll fix it up tonight, didn't end up getting home until late last night and decided to make a fencer build instead of reading through this thread and fixing it, sorry had a slack attack
    Sounds good. I'll update the OP with the final rules. All that's left is vetting them out (making sure nothing contradicts) and setting a date.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Myztyrio on Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:55 pm

    Jansports wrote:

    Did you mean to use Hallow Warriors Waistcloth? You can wear soldiers and still fast roll

    Correct, I actually intended Soldier's.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Jansports on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:11 am

    Well it's back to the drawing board for you, since the BK weapons are now off limits

    Perhaps This http://mmdks.com/2lw2 Would be to your liking? The worst/best part of this build is the fact that both hands have a weapon that'll need to be farmed. But it honestly looks like it'd be a blast to use. I guess you could always use a regular dagger instead of the Ghost blade, but the Ghost blade will have higher AR (even though it's mostly for parrying)
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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:14 am


    Updated Rules as of 6/4:


    • SL: 10 or lower
    • Items/weapons/armor may be obtained from only the following locations (with the exceptions below). See the link below for a list of everything allowed and their locations.

      • Firelink Shrine
      • Undead burg
      • Parish
      • Lower undead Burg
      • Lower B-Town (as defined from the location you enter using the Master Key)
      • Great Hollow
      • Darkroot basin
      • Darkroot garden

    • Upgrades: weapons and armor can only be upgraded with titanite shards, twinkling titanite (max of 10), and/or 1 Dragon scale
      • Weapon upgrades only through Andre or Rickert

    • Armor: any starting class armor is fair game, regardless of where you obtain it.
    • Merchants: Male undead, Female undead
    • Trainers: Griggs, Rickert, and Laurentis
    • Rings allowed: RTSR, BTSR, Wolf, FaP, and Havel's
    • Black Knight weapons are not allowed.
    • Cannot obtain anything accessible by beating Quelaag or Hydra.
    • Humanity. Must start at 0. And, you must earn every humanity through host kills (so, no healing during the fights).


    [url=]Spreadsheet of allowed weapons, armor, and their locations[/url]

    Rules of fighting are simple. No healing with Humanity or Divine Blessing. Fight how you want to be fought.

    If a phantom or the host has an elemental weapon, or crown of dusk, then you can pull out any weapon/armor you want (so have them in reserve). This includes a host or weapon that is clearly way above the average level for that area. So, if you see someone wielding a BKGA, slap on a HR and a rapier and give them the what's for. This is subjective and I will rely on your own discretion.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:15 am

    Rules updated. Thanks for being patient with this.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Jansports on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:34 am

    I'm freaking out over what weapons to use. Do I NEED the BSS? Is a spear worth it (I mean the spear, is it worth using or should I just invest the points to use the Partizan or Winged?) Of course I'd like a bow available, short since composite is a no-no. Rapier or Estoc? Dagger or Bandit Knife? (I honestly like the bleed on the knife more than I like the daggers thrust R2)

    It's a stretch but I could go 14/14 and have a romp with the Uchi (but not the great scythe...frown) Or this, Or that.

    Too many weapons are good, the devs shouldn't have done such a good job making each weapon appealing.
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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:40 am

    I'm probably going with an estoc/rapier or BK as one weapon choice. Haven't figured it out yet.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by wretchedsausage on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:50 am

    http://mmdks.com/2lqi

    OK, this is my finalised build, I think it will be fun trying to play with an offhand Rapier.

    @Reim, can we have this date in a month or so, because I would like some time to get up to the Four Kings. Would that be OK with everyone else?


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:06 am

    wretchedsausage wrote:http://mmdks.com/2lqi

    OK, this is my finalised build, I think it will be fun trying to play with an offhand Rapier.

    @Reim, can we have this date in a month or so, because I would like some time to get up to the Four Kings. Would that be OK with everyone else?

    Agreed and I have sat night to make my build, and get to 4 Kings.. co-op?


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by wretchedsausage on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:11 am

    Perhaps, I'll let you know if I'm up to there by then. If so, That would be fantastic!

    Also, I propose this happens on Sunday 7th or 14th of July, at 9:00am AEST. This is just what's best for me, I think it is the same time that the last event started.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:24 am

    July? Wow thats quite some time away. I can do either given thats a months notice.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by wretchedsausage on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:30 am

    I'm not saying "WE NEED TO DO IT THEN", its just that my mum is pretty restricting when it comes to my Playstation use, so it might take me a while to get up to the Four Kings. If everyone else would like to have it sooner, I'm OK with that, I'll just have to do a bit of sneaky Dark Souls while she's out.

    I know it sounds a bit silly, "mummy wont let me use the playstation" but what can I do, she's the boss...


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:03 am

    Fair Dinkum mate happy


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:50 am

    I'll wait till the spreadsheet is updated to make my build then happy


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:23 am

    I can't do July 7th, since that is the 4th of July weekend and I have plans (Independance Day for you non-Yanks). 14th should work for me. And, I was thinking of making this a weekend event. Saturday at 12am - Sunday 11:59pm.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by wretchedsausage on Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:37 am

    OK, that sounds fantastic. If other people want it sooner though, I wouldn't mind.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Halicarnassis on Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:27 am

    Either dates work for me. With enough notice I can book out my weekend


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:36 am

    Shoot, is everyone on the ps3? I'm an xbox player.


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    Re: Who can create the most powerful fair low level build?

    Post by Avenger649 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:24 pm

    Here is my build: http://mmdks.com/2m6n
    It is simple enough to play and even at +5 the warpick can easily hit 200 damage with the strong attacks.


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