[Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

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    [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Seignar on Fri May 31, 2013 10:32 am

    For some reason, completely unknown to me, this build just can't win
    Whatever could be wrong with it? It has the HP and the power, yet I get killed so easily. This requires the combined intellect of all forumites to perfect this unique dragon build. How could this build be so bad?

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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by tofucactaur on Fri May 31, 2013 10:34 am

    i think the resistance stat allocation is the only thing going for this build....


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Fri May 31, 2013 10:42 am

    First time i've ever come across a fat rolling dragon. Your defense is going to screw you and the fat roll is seriously going to screw you. It's unique i'll give it that.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Fri May 31, 2013 12:40 pm

    you have 20+ statpoints wasted that just scream to be put in endurance...dragon needs to quickroll imo http://mmdks.com/2jp2 dunno if both spells act as a body buff and can't be used together though.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by tofucactaur on Fri May 31, 2013 12:56 pm

    lol


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by ICEFANG on Fri May 31, 2013 1:00 pm

    oof that looks pretty bad to be honest.

    As other's have said, you will need to fast roll, as well as, you will be poisoned, the only build I've made that was slightly resistant is G Halberd a res from 11->15, and that was worth the investment, but at this point? No its not. Plus you need to be wearing the bloodbite ring if anything, and more END so you don't bleed out on your own strikes.

    Pyromancer saves a level, so you need to use that.

    This is the build done better, don't worry about Iron Flesh unless you actually have armor as well underneath, it isn't worth it alone.

    http://mmdks.com/2jp5

    You need to add another back up weapon probably, maybe a Rapier, Spear, or Bow, perhaps a bleed weapon like a Katana, but if you did it like that, you would have 2 solid shields as well.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by LunarFog on Fri May 31, 2013 1:20 pm

    QQ. The link won't work for me

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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Fri May 31, 2013 2:53 pm

    Ok HP, but terrible endurance (IE no sustained offense at all), terrible speed, bad armor, no poise at all does not make for a good combination. People with heavy weapons can just trade with you and you'll be insta-stunlocked. Heck, even light weapons can do that because you have literally no poise, so just taking a hit from a falchion, spear, even a dagger would stagger you. That's bad news, because you can't evade them either with fat rolling. If one is to even CONSIDER fat rolling, you want very high poise (76 minimum), allowing you to win trades and play off that ability.

    I can't see running poisonbite ring unless you want to pair it with rusted iron ring and invade blighttown constantly. Even then, simply running poisonbite + spider shield would be fine and dragon wouldn't be the best setup for trolling there.

    Endurance is good for more than just equip weight (though you need some of that, too). If you aren't a PURE caster, endurance is a critical stat to level. Resistance is borderline worthless to level up.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by SirArchmage on Fri May 31, 2013 4:17 pm

    Words don't describe all the wrongness in this build. I am pretty sure you are being sarcastic with this, but nonetheless, stick to one weapon, lower the health, switch to wolf ring, get Black flame, contemplate on your horrible decision making skills in Dark Souls then make sure you can fast roll.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Encore on Fri May 31, 2013 4:28 pm

    Why... Why did you put points into resistance?


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by tonberryking01 on Fri May 31, 2013 4:43 pm

    I think it's alright to up your Resistance IF you already have your Vit/End at 50/40 and have the Str/Dex/Int/Faith for the weapons and spells you want to use. Never prioritize Resistance over Endurance. With no armor, you don't need much End for the fast roll, but leaving it at base level is suicide.
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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri May 31, 2013 4:51 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=396609853668666321

    i get your choice of the stone gs with iron flesh as the stngs's slow spell actaully can be cast with body buffs in effect whereas twop cannot. so heres a fast rolling stone gs dragon who will bleed out after one strike with the scythe..... inshort i'd recommend usinng the regular scythe.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Fri May 31, 2013 5:19 pm

    >mfw people actually taking this seriously

    Guys, it's a joke. Poisonbite ring, Stone GS, Resistance, fat roll with no poise, LIFEHUNT SCYTHE AS A DRAGON!? You will bleed yourself out every time you hit the opponent, I don't know how you can give him actual advice with a straight face.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by SirArchmage on Fri May 31, 2013 5:34 pm

    Ghadis_God wrote:>mfw people actually taking this seriously

    Guys, it's a joke. Poisonbite ring, Stone GS, Resistance, fat roll with no poise, LIFEHUNT SCYTHE AS A DRAGON!? You will bleed yourself out every time you hit the opponent, I don't know how you can give him actual advice with a straight face.
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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Fri May 31, 2013 6:08 pm

    Hahaha, I think it works as an all-purpose reaction image.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Jansports on Fri May 31, 2013 9:22 pm

    Araragi has the best reactions.
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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri May 31, 2013 9:30 pm

    of course its a joke, but not having a witty response im going to take it seriously to keep the thread alive long enough for something funny to happen.


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Animaaal on Fri May 31, 2013 9:41 pm

    You're pissing off the Dragon Gods by not using a Dragon Weapon. This infuriates them to the point of directly having you invaded by sl 200+ twinks.

    Try using a dragon wep, and I bet you'll notice a HUGE difference.

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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Seignar on Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:07 pm

    Too much help, have to do it by person. So much help.
    It makes me so happy...I think. I will remember all your names with perfect clarity.

    tofucactaurus:
    tofucactaur wrote:i think the resistance stat allocation is the only thing going for this build....
    I understand
    AnCapaillMourn:
    AnCapaillMor wrote:First time i've ever come across a fat rolling
    dragon. Your defense is going to screw you and the fat roll is seriously
    going to screw you. It's unique i'll give it that.
    I see...I will refrain from rolling in the future
    xenon_nobeluiuium:
    xenon_nobelium wrote:you have 20+ statpoints wasted that just scream
    to be put in endurance...dragon needs to quickroll imo
    http://mmdks.com/2jp2 dunno if both spells act as a body buff and can't
    be used together though.
    How silly of me! Let me take those bad +20+ points off
    DICEFANG:
    ICEFANG wrote:oof that looks pretty bad to be honest.

    As
    other's have said, you will need to fast roll, as well as, you will be
    poisoned, the only build I've made that was slightly resistant is G
    Halberd a res from 11->15, and that was worth the investment, but at
    this point? No its not. Plus you need to be wearing the bloodbite ring
    if anything, and more END so you don't bleed out on your own strikes.

    Pyromancer saves a level, so you need to use that.

    This
    is the build done better, don't worry about Iron Flesh unless you
    actually have armor as well underneath, it isn't worth it alone.

    http://mmdks.com/2jp5

    You
    need to add another back up weapon probably, maybe a Rapier, Spear, or
    Bow, perhaps a bleed weapon like a Katana, but if you did it like that,
    you would have 2 solid shields as well.
    Couldn't get what you meant by "solid", so I just picked stuff that looked hard
    SirMArchmage:
    SirArchmage wrote:Words don't describe all the wrongness in this
    build. I am pretty sure you are being sarcastic with this, but
    nonetheless, stick to one weapon, lower the health, switch to wolf ring,
    get Black flame, contemplate on your horrible decision making skills
    in Dark Souls then make sure you can fast roll.
    Did I do good?
    Tehdoomgrasper:
    Tehdoomgrasp wrote:Why... Why did you put points into resistance?
    Removed RES
    tonberryking10:
    tonberryking01 wrote:I think it's alright to up your Resistance IF
    you already have your Vit/End at 50/40 and have the Str/Dex/Int/Faith
    for the weapons and spells you want to use. Never
    prioritize Resistance over Endurance. With no armor, you don't need much
    End for the fast roll, but leaving it at base level is suicide.
    Suicidal Problem Solved

    Seignys:
    Seignys wrote:That's like, so cool! But I think that with no armor, you aren't going to last long anyway and your HP will eventually reach 0 like, no matter how much VIT you have. You're better off with RES points added in since they increase your defenses. Also, you overleveled all your other stats because you could use your weapons WAY before. There really is no point in having them at 40 because your bleeding people out anyways.
    ^Who is she?

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    Animaaal wrote:You're pissing off the Dragon Gods by not using a
    Dragon Weapon. This infuriates them to the point of directly having you
    invaded by sl 200+ twinks.

    Try using a dragon wep, and I bet you'll notice a HUGE difference.

    INDEED

    But, they all still keep losing!
    Have the Dragon Gods abandoned me?


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by Animaaal on Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:20 pm

    Ya know, it could be that whole "You betrayed me, now you gotta earn my trust back" kinda thing. My wife did that to me before we got married. I said, "But we were in college!!!"....didn't work. Shrug


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    Re: [Sl100] Help with this unique Dragon build?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:03 pm

    a whole roasted cow tends to work in my experience.


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