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    We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Critical50 on Wed May 29, 2013 10:28 pm

    I hate shield turtlers. They're annoying. But they're still beatable. Although what I really hate is when a shield turtler will use a rapier or spear, then just poke at you from behind their shield practically the entire fight. I roll BSed a guy doing this, so in the burg he stands infront of the wall so I can't backstab him. Anyone else agree? I also play with no shield. I kind of like it, not having that option and having the extra equip weight avaliable is cool.

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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed May 29, 2013 10:49 pm

    I agree they are annoying. I always carry a shotel on my builds....just in case.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed May 29, 2013 10:57 pm

    Annoying but a mild one. Remember they can't block everything in the game. You can bleed them, poison/toxic them, throw magic at them, miracle them etc. Learn the tactics that beat them and practice till you can conquer them.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by KrazykevS10 on Wed May 29, 2013 11:03 pm

    They are very beatable but yes,it's very annoying.I'd say just stay back and make them come out if they sit by a wall.


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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed May 29, 2013 11:13 pm

    Boring them out may not be the best option. I say black flame would scare them out of it well.


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    Post by reim0027 on Wed May 29, 2013 11:16 pm

    I really dislike it when all they do is shield poke. So boring to "fight".


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Dibsville on Wed May 29, 2013 11:17 pm

    I'm going to have to disagree on this one. Shield poking takes a lot of stamina and if you're getting poked to death that's your own fault for not guarding. Plus, they are extremely easy to parry.


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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed May 29, 2013 11:19 pm

    Poke,poke, poke and then: "ha learn to fight!" or "This is how you fight you loser noob. I played this game for 1000 hours on PSN and 800 hours on xbox." Funniest mail I ever got. Ah bleeding them and bs never felt so good.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by tonberryking01 on Wed May 29, 2013 11:22 pm

    A couple days ago I dueled this guy repeatedly and he changed his equipment between each round (it was a very fun series of fights! Sun ). Once, he came at me in full Havel's, with nothing but a two-handed Havel's shield. laughing It wasn't nearly as effective as regular shield turtling. I took his health down to a sliver, let him heal, and bowed again.

    Regular shield-turtlers (ones with weapons) are kind of annoying, but there are so many more annoying tactics that people use that this isn't much of a concern comparatively.
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    Post by reim0027 on Wed May 29, 2013 11:22 pm

    I like the helpful suggestions you guys are giving. How to counter shield turtlers. Keep it up.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by twigsterxd on Wed May 29, 2013 11:23 pm

    I force them to use up their endurance. Then as soon as they drop shield to get stamina faster I go ape chit on them lol. Or if I have my club I 2H r2 them, they stagger and they try to run n hide but can't cause I usually get to bs them lol.
    The only PvP I like is turtles cause they can't figure out why they lost LOL


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed May 29, 2013 11:25 pm

    A broadsword with proper stats invested into it can be good to break their guard. Or things like a tracer. Fast, and light stamina drain weapons would help.


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    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed May 29, 2013 11:26 pm

    when all else fails....dead-angle WotG.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed May 29, 2013 11:30 pm

    No do this. Get a faith build, add karmic justice, put a shield like sanctus and hold out and let the poker trigger the miracle. The rest is combat.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Jansports on Wed May 29, 2013 11:49 pm

    No we cannot agree that we all hate these guys in pvp. The shield poke is one of many tools available to a player in pvp, if someone is using it big whoop dee freakin doo. If the shield poke is ALL they're using then it should be an easy fight because you always know what they will do next and you can punish it over and over. If he's using it and mixing it up with other attacks / actions then congrats him he's playing the game.

    I mean really "Waahhh my opponent is using a feature of his weapon to fight me and I don't like it"

    And of course WE ALL CAN AGREE because why would anyone have a different opinion, I bet if they did they themselves are shield pokers and think they're better than everyone else
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    Post by Bontee on Wed May 29, 2013 11:55 pm

    Magic works wonders on those guys happy
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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed May 29, 2013 11:58 pm

    I don't see it as "we hate" or "we don't hate it" than how do we counter/beat these types in the game. Frankly I love these ideas on how to do just that. You get progress that way.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Thu May 30, 2013 12:01 am

    Reading complaints about shieldpokes from people who never played DeS makes me feel like a starving kid in Africa listening to Americans complain about how they don't have anything to eat because their girlfriend ate the last slice of the leftover pizza.

    In Dark Souls some guy is shieldpoking so you poisestab him effortlessly and he loses 1/3rd of his health.

    In Demon's Souls some guy is shieldpoking so you rollstab for 0 damage just to knock him down so that you have a chance to dead angle him since you need the frame advantage from a KD to have a reasonable chance of landing a dead angle, but it doesn't matter because probably he will just roll away and when he notices that you whiffed a dead angle attack he'll hit you out of your recovery with a rolling R1 > f+R1 combo for half your health. Then he goes back to shieldpoking you. Did I mention shieldpokes deal nearly 300 damage?


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Kyuseishu on Thu May 30, 2013 12:04 am

    Just kick and parry them. Problem solved.


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    Re: We can all agree that we hate these kinds of guys in PvP, right?

    Post by Dibsville on Thu May 30, 2013 12:05 am

    Jansports wrote:And of course WE ALL CAN AGREE because why would anyone have a different opinion, I bet if they did they themselves are shield pokers and think they're better than everyone else
    Agreed.


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