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    Post by St1cky1cky1775 on Mon May 27, 2013 1:46 pm

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    Date: Saturday, July 20th
    Time: Noon UTC-6
    Location: Sen's Roof     
    Max Soul Level: 125

    Single Elimination, Best 2 out of 3.

    This tournament will be live streamed and recorded.

    To sign up for this tournament, please send me a message on PSN(TooFadedGaming).

    You must message me with your PSN name by 11pm CST(-6) July 19th.

    Rules:
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    No Healing(Replenishment is allowed)
    No Tranquil Walk of Peace
    No BackStab Fishing
    You may use as many characters as you want, but you may only use 1 character per opponent.

    Replenishment is allowed to be used once per duel.

    PRIZE: $60 Digital GameStop Card

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    How the duels will start: Buff, Bow, Duel. You must wait until the opponent is done buffing before you start engaging them.

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    Post by xRamenatorx on Tue May 28, 2013 2:01 am

    Is this the psn version of Brokes tournament? XD
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    Post by Elifia on Tue May 28, 2013 2:08 am

    Why is this on a day that does not exist? May 29th is Wednesday, not Tuesday.


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    Post by St1cky1cky1775 on Tue May 28, 2013 2:56 am

    Elifia wrote:Why is this on a day that does not exist? May 29th is Wednesday, not Tuesday.
    Thanks, Changed it from Wed to Tuesday, forgot to change the actual date lol
    xRamenatorx wrote:Is this the psn version of Brokes tournament? XD
    Kind of, I guess? I don't have as many limitations. It's not related at all though.


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    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue May 28, 2013 3:04 am

    I need to start collecting a list of horrible rules people make for tournaments. This one is quite creative, in a grim way!


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    Post by Murkulanvippi on Tue May 28, 2013 3:12 am

    Can I ask why 135? Any reason to go above meta?


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    Post by xB_WEEZYx on Tue May 28, 2013 3:15 am

    so you can't even wear the hat of chester..
    shame shame


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    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue May 28, 2013 3:16 am

    My guess is because he is too lazy to make a character at the correct level for hosting a tournament and is smart enough to know that it's not worth enforcing a 125 cap on a character who can summon as high as 135.


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    Post by St1cky1cky1775 on Tue May 28, 2013 3:20 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:I need to start collecting a list of horrible rules people make for tournaments. This one is quite creative, in a grim way!
    What rules are that terrible?

    Murkulanvippi wrote:Can I ask why 135? Any reason to go above meta?
    It's what I can summon on my character.


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    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue May 28, 2013 3:25 am

    No DLC Stuff, at all, magic, weapon, armor, etc.
    No modded builds, armor, weapons, spell-swaps and glitches
    No BackStab fishing
    No "wake-up attacks" after Parry, BS, or any other knock down.
    No Healing
    No Spears
    No Hornet Ring
    No Wrath of the Gods
    No Tranquil Walk of Peace
    You are not allowed to have more than 1 of the same spell attuned.

    I crossed out all the rules that aren't awful.


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    Post by St1cky1cky1775 on Tue May 28, 2013 3:27 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:No DLC Stuff, at all, magic, weapon, armor, etc.
    No modded builds, armor, weapons, spell-swaps and glitches
    No BackStab fishing
    No "wake-up attacks" after Parry, BS, or any other knock down.
    No Healing
    No Spears
    No Hornet Ring
    No Wrath of the Gods
    No Tranquil Walk of Peace
    You are not allowed to have more than 1 of the same spell attuned.

    I crossed out all the rules that aren't awful.

    It's a little excessive, I know. But the Rules might change still by Tuesday. Me and the other owner of my YT channel are still discussing rules. This is just a "first draft". I didn't want too many restrictions like the X360 one, but I feel some things need to be restricted. We also might be re-doing this every so often. All depends on how this goes.


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    Post by xB_WEEZYx on Tue May 28, 2013 3:38 am

    St1cky1cky1775 wrote:
    Saturday-Saint wrote:No DLC Stuff, at all, magic, weapon, armor, etc.
    No modded builds, armor, weapons, spell-swaps and glitches
    No BackStab fishing
    No "wake-up attacks" after Parry, BS, or any other knock down.
    No Healing
    No Spears
    No Hornet Ring
    No Wrath of the Gods
    No Tranquil Walk of Peace
    You are not allowed to have more than 1 of the same spell attuned.

    I crossed out all the rules that aren't awful.

    It's a little excessive, I know. But the Rules might change still by Tuesday. Me and the other owner of my YT channel are still discussing rules. This is just a "first draft". I didn't want too many restrictions like the X360 one, but I feel some things need to be restricted. We also might be re-doing this every so often. All depends on how this goes.

    i just want to know whats so bad about DLC armor?
    its nowhere near OP..


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    Post by St1cky1cky1775 on Tue May 28, 2013 3:41 am

    xB_WEEZYx wrote:
    St1cky1cky1775 wrote:
    Saturday-Saint wrote:No DLC Stuff, at all, magic, weapon, armor, etc.
    No modded builds, armor, weapons, spell-swaps and glitches
    No BackStab fishing
    No "wake-up attacks" after Parry, BS, or any other knock down.
    No Healing
    No Spears
    No Hornet Ring
    No Wrath of the Gods
    No Tranquil Walk of Peace
    You are not allowed to have more than 1 of the same spell attuned.

    I crossed out all the rules that aren't awful.

    It's a little excessive, I know. But the Rules might change still by Tuesday. Me and the other owner of my YT channel are still discussing rules. This is just a "first draft". I didn't want too many restrictions like the X360 one, but I feel some things need to be restricted. We also might be re-doing this every so often. All depends on how this goes.

    i just want to know whats so bad about DLC armor?
    its nowhere near OP..
    I'll remove the restriction on DLC stuff.


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    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue May 28, 2013 3:41 am

    It has nothing to do with how powerful the DLC equipment is, it's an issue of access. Not everybody has access to DLC content, thus allowing it would unfairly advantage people who have the DLC.

    It is silly to be concerned over this, though, since anybody who is serious about the PvP will have bought the DLC.


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    Post by Sneezer on Tue May 28, 2013 3:42 am

    One day notice for a tournament with an actual prize, an "in progress" rule list, a discussion with another person with equal say in what happens, and an SL135 cap? This is extremely unprofessional altogether for a posted event with an actual prize.
    You give it a minimum one week in advance, you have a carefully considered rule list set by an experienced PVPer, you do NOT discuss anything with anyone who has the same amount of power in it as you because that wastes time, and you make the soul level the meta, and make it one single level, not a level range, so everyone has the same build potential.

    I recommend rescheduling, and getting your stuff together.


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    Post by St1cky1cky1775 on Tue May 28, 2013 3:43 am

    Sneezer wrote:One day notice for a tournament with an actual prize, an "in progress" rule list, a discussion with another person with equal say in what happens, and an SL135 cap? This is extremely unprofessional altogether for a posted event with an actual prize.
    You give it a minimum one week in advance, you have a carefully considered rule list set by an experienced PVPer, you do NOT discuss anything with anyone who has the same amount of power in it as you because that wastes time, and you make the soul level the meta, and make it one single level, not a level range, so everyone has the same build potential.

    I recommend rescheduling, and getting your stuff together.

    You can't really check SL though. And I guess you are right, I'll make this 1 week from tomorrow.


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    Sneezer wrote:make it one single level, not a level range, so everyone has the same build potential.

    You can't actually force people not to use lower level builds, though. Tournaments only need to set a max level, the participants should be smart enough to use a build at the max level instead of showing up with a SL 90.


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    Post by Sneezer on Tue May 28, 2013 3:49 am

    Of course you can't force anyone to do anything, especially since they would put themselves at a disadvantage. You say it's one level to discourage people from straying, so it's generally a more even playing field. That, and so people don't have an easy excuse when they lose, because whining is annoying.


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    How am I supposed to prepare my build for this with a day's notice? How am I supposed to make weapons and armor for a tourney? And going up to 135 is stupid as well, you can tell by the number of souls a defeated person gives you what level he was and thus it's easy to see if he's cheating. Also, Dukes Archives is a poor place for this as the lockon range for melee is very short which throws an unexpected factor into the mix, one which many people are not used to dueling with if you care so much about "fairness" as to ban wakeup attacks and spears. Tourney should be 120-125 or 99-100. Also, define "backstab fishing". If someone is trying to roll attack me with a great club you can be damn sure I'm going to try for a bs because it's the best way to deal with those people.


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    Ghadis_God wrote:you can tell by the number of souls a defeated person gives you what level he was and thus it's easy to see if he's cheating.
    "It looks like that guy who just lost was cheating! I guess we'd disqualify him if he hadn't just been eliminated."


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    Ghadis_God wrote:How am I supposed to prepare my build for this with a day's notice? How am I supposed to make weapons and armor for a tourney? And going up to 135 is stupid as well, you can tell by the number of souls a defeated person gives you what level he was and thus it's easy to see if he's cheating. Also, Dukes Archives is a poor place for this as the lockon range for melee is very short which throws an unexpected factor into the mix, one which many people are not used to dueling with if you care so much about "fairness" as to ban wakeup attacks and spears. Tourney should be 120-125 or 99-100. Also, define "backstab fishing". If someone is trying to roll attack me with a great club you can be damn sure I'm going to try for a bs because it's the best way to deal with those people.

    the day has been changed, June 4th. The level restriction will be 125. back stab fishing has also been removed from rules.


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    Saturday-Saint wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:you can tell by the number of souls a defeated person gives you what level he was and thus it's easy to see if he's cheating.
    "It looks like that guy who just lost was cheating! I guess we'd disqualify him if he hadn't just been eliminated."
    "Every participant is required to be killed by the host once to test Soul Level." Nice and simple rule and it keeps things fair.


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    Ghadis_God wrote:
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    Ghadis_God wrote:you can tell by the number of souls a defeated person gives you what level he was and thus it's easy to see if he's cheating.
    "It looks like that guy who just lost was cheating! I guess we'd disqualify him if he hadn't just been eliminated."
    "Every participant is required to be killed by the host once to test Soul Level." Nice and simple rule and it keeps things fair.

    That's perfect, thanks!


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    Ghadis_God wrote:
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    Ghadis_God wrote:you can tell by the number of souls a defeated person gives you what level he was and thus it's easy to see if he's cheating.
    "It looks like that guy who just lost was cheating! I guess we'd disqualify him if he hadn't just been eliminated."
    "Every participant is required to be killed by the host once to test Soul Level." Nice and simple rule and it keeps things fair.
    Why waste the time and risk somebody out-smarting the rule? This problem was solved eons ago. The host runs the tournament with a SL 105 character. Anybody above SL 125 will be unsummonable.


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    Post by St1cky1cky1775 on Tue May 28, 2013 4:19 am

    Saturday-Saint wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:
    Saturday-Saint wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:you can tell by the number of souls a defeated person gives you what level he was and thus it's easy to see if he's cheating.
    "It looks like that guy who just lost was cheating! I guess we'd disqualify him if he hadn't just been eliminated."
    "Every participant is required to be killed by the host once to test Soul Level." Nice and simple rule and it keeps things fair.
    Why waste the time and risk somebody out-smarting the rule? This problem was solved eons ago. The host runs the tournament with a SL 105 character. Anybody above SL 125 will be unsummonable.

    The only thing wrong with that is that the only character I have even close to that is 113.


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