Parrying in PvP

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    Parrying in PvP

    Post by The_Tao on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:20 pm

    Parries, we all love them. I have had no success making a riposte happen on a live player. I know the target shield and parrying dagger are the best bet when it comes to timing. My questions are,

    Do you consistintly > 40% achieve the parrying animation?


    if so, how do you deal with latency?




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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by djgq42 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:24 pm

    i actually like rapiers for parrying. it think they might be quicker than the parrying dagger.
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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by meridam99 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:26 pm

    I successfully parry may 1 in 5-6 in PVP, in PVE I am at like 95% (If I know the moveset of the enemy already).

    Another Shield great for parrying is the Buckler.

    Heater shield is good as well as you can spam L2 as it has a quick parry animation.


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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:31 pm

    As far as parry SPEEDS go, there are three, fast, medium and slow. The difference between the parrying dagger target shield and the buckler compared to everything else is the window of time to get the riposte. You get an extra fraction of a second.

    As far as parrying in PvP, if you're lagging its all about luck, unless you're super skilled and can compensate for lag. Sometimes its easier to parry and then go for a backstab, less timing to worry about. Also I believe there may be a way to escape a riposte by attacking much like you can escape a backstab by attacking.


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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by The_Tao on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:42 pm

    ErrJon6661 wrote:As far as parry SPEEDS go, there are three, fast, medium and slow. The difference between the parrying dagger target shield and the buckler compared to everything else is the window of time to get the riposte. You get an extra fraction of a second.


    Do you mean to start the parry animations, or once they're weapon is cleared and you riposte?


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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:43 pm

    @Err

    But the parrying dagger, and shields with same parrying animation, have a delay in their parry. They're actually slower than rapiers and small shields to parry with, so they're not great for online, since you need to compensate for lag and the parry delay.

    I agree that parrying in PvP is a lot about luck. The skill isn't in knowing how to compensate for lag as it is being able to predict when your opponent will attack. Since the lag is completely inconsistent (never the same from one fight to another) you can't accurately compensate for it. You can get good at predicting your enemy, though (it's one thing you learn from playing online a lot, in any game, that most people are extremely predictable! And the best skill to develop is to be unpredictable).
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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by Liff Daddy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:45 pm

    It seems the only thing I'm successful at when it comes to PvP is parrying silly.

    I've only used the Silver Knight Shield for PvP so far and I've been fortunate to get 5 parries in 9 duels. Unfortunately I've lost 8 of them silly.


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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by djgq42 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:45 pm

    @BLA1NE

    i actually got the idea for using rapiers for parrying from you and have been trying it today for the first time. thanks! has anyone ever used the shotel for parrying?
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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:51 pm

    Haha, let me know how it works!

    If you're up against ultra-greatswords, it's cake to parry! Those are so slow you can actually parry when you see them initiate their attack, rather than predict it. And it's extremely satisfying to pull off, since you actually timed it rather than random-parry. If your opponent is wielding a huge weapon, be ready to parry!

    If you're up against smaller weapons, it's best to try and parry when they start spamming R1. Otherwise, since their attack animation is so quick, in most fights you'll have to predict the parry, and that isn't so fun or rewarding. I've had a few fights where the lag was optimal and I was able to parry by looking at my opponent's swing, but those are rare. When you're up against a small weapon, don't give your intention away. Let them spam R1 before trying to parry. Otherwise, if they know you're out to parry them, they might be vigilant about the spamming, and good luck parrying then!


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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:13 pm

    @BLAINE the speed of the animation. All parries minus the special ones like the parrying dagger give you the same window to attack. Different parries have different speeds however and the special ones do have a slight delay. The easiest ones in my opinion are the fast ones like the rapier, daggers, small shields and heater shield.


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    Re: Parrying in PvP

    Post by Unforseen on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:55 pm

    i used this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1G8Vhxz3YQ to help me out with parrying in pvp. Also he is rank 2 in the book of guilty for xbox so take a look at his other videos because he isnt all that bad.

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