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    Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Lucien Lachance on Sat May 18, 2013 3:17 am

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    Greetings comrades,
    I would like for some of you fellas to take a look at this build I'm thinking of making. Something original that also looks fun. Its my Toxic Dragon Build, essentially its going to be a build based around using the dragon torso stone to stagger enemies, and get hits in with my rotten resined up falchion, while spraying toxic mist. With the toxin on my opponent, I can amp up the pressure with roars and my high damage.
    Tell me what you think or if you have any improvements.
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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat May 18, 2013 3:42 am

    Why 45 Strength? You do know the Falchion scales with DEX and that your Pyro casting speed increases the more DEX you have, capping out at 45 DEX? :affraid:

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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by SirArchmage on Sat May 18, 2013 4:38 am

    I question the massive strength and health. Do what pendant said and invest in dex instead of strength. Also, more attunement slots may be good. And with all that left over weight might want something bigger, as you already have a small fast weapon.



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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by ExplodingPenguin on Sat May 18, 2013 4:56 am

    Sounds neat! Will you be able to put up you using it on Youtube?

    Also, I approve of the Falchion; it's one of my favorite weapons in dark souls


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Lucien Lachance on Sat May 18, 2013 9:34 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Why 45 Strength? You do know the Falchion scales with DEX and that your Pyro casting speed increases the more DEX you have, capping out at 45 DEX? :affraid:

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    Oops thats supposed to be dex lol. Sorry about that. Just pretend its in dex silly
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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by billy_bayonet on Sat May 18, 2013 9:37 am

    http://mmdks.com/2d7k This would be better IMO, 45 dex to get most out of scaling and speed of castings, Changed end to 40 as 45 is not needed as equip weight means nothing on a dragon using a dex weapon and 40 is max stamina, Changed Vit to 50 as 55 only give you about another 50 HP.
    given you more att slows and 15 int for great magic weapon, simple start with a catalyst in your shield space cast, menu swap cat to shield and continue


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by billy_bayonet on Sat May 18, 2013 9:43 am

    billy_bayonet wrote:http://mmdks.com/2d7k This would be better IMO, 45 dex to get most out of scaling and speed of castings, Changed end to 40 as 45 is not needed as equip weight means nothing on a dragon using a dex weapon and 40 is max stamina, Changed Vit to 50 as 55 only give you about another 50 HP.
    given you more att slows and 15 int for great magic weapon, simple start with a catalyst in your shield space cast, menu swap cat to shield and continue

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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Lucien Lachance on Sat May 18, 2013 9:46 am

    What catalyst do you recommend? I'm not very experienced with sorcery.


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by billy_bayonet on Sat May 18, 2013 9:48 am

    15 int would be an oolacile one, just practice alot at casting then menu swapping back to your shield


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Lucien Lachance on Sat May 18, 2013 10:01 am

    On a side note, what do you guys think of making this a strength build rather than a dex one? Utilizing the hand axe and maybe the BKGA or Large Club?


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by divinebeanpole on Sat May 18, 2013 10:13 am

    My str build is so fun with dragon body, take it to 50 for Dragon Ultragreatsword or Axe, or the best str weapon Demon GreatAxe.

    Oh, and the toxic and poison concept would fare better with your original falchion idea I think, if you can apply constant pressure so they can't simply eat some purple

    Edit: or just stick with the hand axe instead of falchion, that could work


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Zeta Prime on Sat May 18, 2013 10:18 am

    I dont think the mists are very good for getting the poison on them but iv never really used them for pvp.. just as a suggestion you could add a bow. u certainly have the dex to do so and equiping poison arrows would be great especially if they already have toxic on them
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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Zeta Prime on Sat May 18, 2013 10:23 am

    yeah and i would deffinitly mess with some of the stats. you could prolly get some more mists!!


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Lucien Lachance on Sat May 18, 2013 10:57 am

    So do you guys think that a dex or strength focus would be better for this build?


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by SirArchmage on Sat May 18, 2013 12:51 pm

    Dex. You would be getting in more hits for the toxin effect that way. But if you want to end the fight quickly with your dragon roar I suggest strength.


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Animaaal on Sat May 18, 2013 7:23 pm

    The mist pyros are almost useless for anything other than "cover" imo...however that works out nice with a bow.

    The Gravelord Sword would be much better, imo, for inflicting toxic status. I believe its the only curved greatsword that thrusts as well. That could be deadly with a Leo Ring on a Dragon build. The GLS also has a ridiculous stunlocking ability.

    Maybe this?:Leo Ring/GLS/SKS

    Granted there's no pyrohand, but I dont think the dragon body buff effects castings.

    Regardless, I capped it at sl 99, so there's room to switch a couple things out if you wanted. You could take dex to 45 and work on a Black Flame-->GLS attack playstyle.
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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Lucien Lachance on Sun May 19, 2013 11:59 pm

    Thanks for the info on the mists, I'm not an experienced pyromancer. I actually like the GLS idea because I've been interested in the Leo Ring for a while, but I'm a bit concerned that the windup time on the attack animation. It doesn't seem like it would mesh well with the limited window of opportunity offered by the dragon roar.


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by divinebeanpole on Mon May 20, 2013 1:07 am

    what animaal said, and also, with 45 dex fire whips and surges are amazing. and yes the mist is good for cover, or if you somehow corner them with it. Gravelord Sword better for toxic


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Mon May 20, 2013 1:26 am

    Don't forget your dung pie ---> GL sword hits (try to inflict it with the GL sword, but a pie can put them a hit away). Toxic + Poison arrows (probably arrows first) then if they try to moss backstab them. Otherwise, just stay close but be somewhat defensive; even at 6 hp/second (dung pie + arrow proc) the poison puts a lot of pressure.
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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by LunarFog on Mon May 20, 2013 12:42 pm

    IMO Poison/Toxin and Dragon don't mix. Dragons are fragile with high attack. In order to make use of toxin/poison you need to have high defense and health at the cost of low attack.


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Animaaal on Mon May 20, 2013 1:56 pm

    Lucien Lachance wrote:Thanks for the info on the mists, I'm not an experienced pyromancer. I actually like the GLS idea because I've been interested in the Leo Ring for a while, but I'm a bit concerned that the windup time on the attack animation. It doesn't seem like it would mesh well with the limited window of opportunity offered by the dragon roar.

    Could be true. I'm unsure, I've never used it or dragon form to a great extent. I have been stunlocked by its decievingly slow attack animation several times though.

    Also, I think LunarFog makes a great point. Besides, the only "mist" that has any scaling at all is Dark Fog.

    If dragon body would somehow increase infliction speed, or drain/second then great, but it doesn't.

    Again, I'd defer to Lunar's points.
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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Lucien Lachance on Mon May 20, 2013 3:09 pm

    Try telling that to the undead dragon in the Painted World. Works pretty well for him. Joking aside, I can see the points you've made and I've decided to abandon the poison concept (because I didnt gather these scales for nothing goddamnit). I guess I'll do something a little more serious, like dex dragon with the silver knight spear. Man that sounds scary.


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by LunarFog on Mon May 20, 2013 3:20 pm

    I believe the spear is fast enough to poke them before they can get out of the way after a roar. It'd be nice.

    There's also the trick of using Havel's shield's skill which makes weapons bounce off of you. The video of that should still be floatin around here somewhere.


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    Re: Rate my Toxic Dragon Build

    Post by Animaaal on Mon May 20, 2013 3:21 pm

    LunarFog wrote:I believe the spear is fast enough to poke them before they can get out of the way after a roar. It'd be nice.

    There's also the trick of using Havel's shield's skill which makes weapons bounce off of you. The video of that should still be floatin around here somewhere.

    Do you need the str requirement for that? Not 2 handing either, but if you had say, 9 strength?

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