Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

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    Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by reim0027 on Thu May 16, 2013 12:53 am

    My internet speed recently increased. And, I've noticed a LOT more front stabs on me. You know, the kind where they are in front of you, but their back is facing you and suddenly you get BSed.

    I was wondering if having a slower internet connection makes it easier to lagstab people with a higher speed.

    Or, am I just crazy?


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by skarekrow13 on Thu May 16, 2013 12:56 am

    Maybe. I have a garbage connection but when I connect to people lag is usually a minor issue. I don't often get teleporters

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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by reim0027 on Thu May 16, 2013 12:57 am

    Virtually all of the BSs I've had are laggy as hell. I don't know how to counter that when they are in front of me, but facing away. Maybe unlock and go butt-to-butt? That's be strange.


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by skarekrow13 on Thu May 16, 2013 1:02 am

    Lol. If that's what it takes, I'll be happier with a tally in the "L" column.

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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by Rynn on Thu May 16, 2013 1:22 am

    slower connections are favored by most peer to peer systems.
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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by raecor14 on Thu May 16, 2013 1:28 am

    i think its the flickering glitch, i have been lagging horribly, cant even manage a summon through O&S


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by Murkulanvippi on Thu May 16, 2013 1:58 am

    I got fast internet connection and have had same problems lately. Stabs when he is in front of me, really late great combustion damage etc. This happens at times, not all the time so it's kinda odd.


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Thu May 16, 2013 4:25 am

    Start downloading pron in the background to sort it.
    What Rynn said on slow connections and not just p2p, a bf3 mate had a pretty crap connection with a bad contention ratio, it was tough to kill him before 10PM, but easier afterwards when less people were using his isp.


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu May 16, 2013 5:00 am

    If the system is p2p, your speed is only as fast as the weakest link in the connection. Other than that, faster connection means less/no delayed packages from your side, which means they can react a bit more predictably at you than you can to them.


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by Elifia on Thu May 16, 2013 5:23 am

    Well, if this is true then that definitely explains why suddenly everyone is lagstabbing me at 10 a.m. Loads of laggy rollstabs too, seriously, every time I attack with any weapon, even really fast ones, rollstab! And then I try to roll through the other person to avoid the chainstab, roll again in same direction, then get pulled back at the end of my second roll for the chainstab!


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by CephGabriel on Thu May 16, 2013 6:11 am

    As an FPS fan where split second makes a huge difference, I can agree here. A slow connection is advantageous if you are the host. Read it like this:

    Fast connection host: BS takes time to reach the client, client has also BS'd on their screen because your character is a half a second behind where you actually are. It's down to luck who the computer decides BS'd first.

    When you are experiencing a lot of lag, I find the best way to avoid being BS'd like that is to stab a half second before when you think you should. You start doing the "sprint forwards stab" animation, then suddenly swing round and BS.

    Does anyone get the BS where you don't quite connect and the enemy goes through the BS animation but doesn't take any damage?


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by Tolvo on Thu May 16, 2013 6:19 am

    Gabriel that is called a Counter BS, you both BS each other at the same time so neither of you take the damage, it's a way to counter a lagstab.

    And it depends.

    Seemingly in Dark Souls from the testing I've done if you are sending information faster than they are sending information back, you are at the disadvantage. While on your screen you are moving away to them you are standing still and are thus easier to backstab. Essentially the game will recognize, "They aren't really there," but because you are properly sending information it will go "Oh he actually is there, so he takes the hit."
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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by crbngville2 on Thu May 16, 2013 7:49 am

    Now, let's all give a big cheer because DkS2 will be going back to dedicated servers. This is for From thinking that P2P was a good way to implement multiplayer to begin with.


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by CephGabriel on Thu May 16, 2013 8:05 am

    Agreed Tolvo. Ah I didn't know it had a name.

    & we're getting dedicated servers?? WOOHOO


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by Tolvo on Thu May 16, 2013 8:09 am

    Also there are two version I wasn't sure which you meant.

    There is Counter BS, and there is BS Cancel.

    The counter BS, you BS someone hand then you get backstabbed and take no damage, or they BS you and then you BS them and still neither take damage.

    The BS Cancel is when one person hits another as they do a BS, so the person doing the BS takes damage from the hit while the person being BS'ed takes no damage. This is done best with fast horizontally arcing weapons, though unlocking and swing behind yourself with strength weapons works well too.
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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by CephGabriel on Thu May 16, 2013 9:19 am

    That makes sense to me ok. The one I most commonly have is when I try to BS someone, I don't connect with them and no damage occurs.


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by reim0027 on Thu May 16, 2013 9:23 am

    Great. That's what I thought. Here I am, all excited that my internet speed just got a boost. Only to realize that lag got a boost too. Look Skyward


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    Re: Does having a fast internet connection make lag worse?

    Post by skarekrow13 on Thu May 16, 2013 12:18 pm

    This is excellent news.....


    Mwah ha ha haaaa! Skare and his garbage rural internet will own everyone!


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