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    The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Dibsville on Sat May 11, 2013 10:33 am

    If you have never used this weapon, you have to use it at least once. Fastest Weapon + DWGR + CMW = Total Destruction.
    I'm hitting 300s (doesn't seem like a lot with CMW, but I can get 2-3 hits in before someone even realises I'm doing damage).


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by divinebeanpole on Sat May 11, 2013 11:28 am

    Pretty sure the Dagger's 2hr2 is a unique thrust for daggers, with a suprising reach


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Dibsville on Sat May 11, 2013 11:28 am

    Yes, on top of that it does a huge amount of damage compared to its other attacks.


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by User1 on Sat May 11, 2013 11:31 am

    Already using it.
    And I love it.
    Screw Bandit's Knife.
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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sat May 11, 2013 11:32 am

    Stack 76 poise - buff Dagger - use Leo Ring + spam R2...

    Commence to kill enemy swiftly.


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by divinebeanpole on Sat May 11, 2013 11:33 am

    Dual wielding Daggers!!!


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Dibsville on Sat May 11, 2013 11:54 am

    I duel-wield Dagger and Parrying Dagger.


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by User1 on Sat May 11, 2013 11:57 am

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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Dibsville on Sat May 11, 2013 12:09 pm



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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Seignar on Sat May 11, 2013 1:48 pm

    Ricard's Rapier Combo Attack + Sun Blade > Dagger

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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by divinebeanpole on Sat May 11, 2013 2:04 pm

    K while you're stuck in a poke-rage there Seignar we will be strafe-ing. Coffee!


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Brigade on Sat May 11, 2013 2:10 pm

    Meanwhile, the falchion is stunlocking with 100 more damage at longer range.

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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by User1 on Sat May 11, 2013 2:13 pm

    Meanwhile, the Dagger is dealing out faster DPS.
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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Brigade on Sat May 11, 2013 2:14 pm

    Meanwhile, the dagger can't hit anyone with more than two fingers because it has the range of a steak knife.

    I guess it would work on the PS3, with the amount of lag it gets. Unfortunately, PC version can be summed up as "Buffed Washing Pole: All day, erry day".

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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by User1 on Sat May 11, 2013 2:16 pm

    Meanwhile, a good player could close that distance easily. It also doesn't have much shorter range than the Falchion.
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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by SirArchmage on Sat May 11, 2013 2:19 pm

    Meanwhile all of you are not respecting the glorious might of a Chaos Whip


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by RANT on Sat May 11, 2013 2:24 pm

    SirArchmage wrote:Meanwhile all of you are not respecting the glorious might of a Chaos Whip

    ew, at least make it +15 and yes dagger spam vs falchion spam= dagger wins...yep.


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Brigade on Sat May 11, 2013 2:28 pm

    Point remains, it's easier to create distance than it is to close it. Greatswords aren't being used much anymore. Long weapons with either versatile move sets or long, sweeping attacks are making their way onto the field.

    Buffed falchion can get in close and stunlock before too much damage is dealt, same with gold tracer. Dagger is not this lucky, and deals mediocre damage once the buff wears out.

    Shorter range on the weapon also means you have to run farther to be in range of your target. This is extra time for the enemy to regain stamina, heal, cast a spell.

    An experienced Great Scythe or Partizan user can maintain distance without rolling around like a fool. Experienced Washing Pole user can kill pretty much anything, as long as their poise remains intact.

    Not saying that a falchion user could beat a good dagger. Just saying that the falchion has a bit of an advantage in the few roles a dagger is useful in.

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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by User1 on Sat May 11, 2013 2:30 pm

    Brigade wrote:
    Not saying that a falchion user could beat a good dagger. Just saying that the falchion has a bit of an advantage in the few roles a dagger is useful in.

    A good point, but it's also the same case for the Dagger. I guess we can leave it at that.
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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Dibsville on Sat May 11, 2013 2:35 pm

    The point is the fact that the Dagger is the fastest weapon in the game, so it can hit, recover, and move away before the enemy has a chance to attack. On top of that, getting Leo'd with the Dagger is extremely hard due to time constraints, and of course the Dagger can use the Leo Ring, whereas the Falchion can't. Falchion's R2 is practically worthless in a real fight, whereas the Dagger's is just a faster version of a Straight Sword R2. The Dagger's 2H strong attack is also unique and has long range. Of course, the Dagger also weighs 2 units less, and has the extra Critical.
    Falchion is outclassed in every way besides poise damage and reach, which a Dagger doesn't have to worry about.


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Brigade on Sat May 11, 2013 2:37 pm

    Dibsville wrote:The point is the fact that the Dagger is the fastest weapon in the game, so it can hit, recover, and move away before the enemy has a chance to attack. On top of that, getting Leo'd with the Dagger is extremely hard due to time constraints, and of course the Dagger can use the Leo Ring, whereas the Falchion can't. Falchion's R2 is practically worthless in a real fight, whereas the Dagger's is just a faster version of a Straight Sword R2. The Dagger's 2H strong attack is also unique and has long range. Of course, the Dagger also weighs 2 units less, and has the extra Critical.
    Falchion is outclassed in every way besides poise damage and reach, which a Dagger doesn't have to worry about.

    Good for you. Go have fun with that, I'll see you soon.
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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Dibsville on Sat May 11, 2013 2:38 pm

    I will have fun with it, as I have been for the last 3 hours. Hope to see you soon.


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Latitoast on Sat May 11, 2013 2:41 pm

    Psh

    Ghost Blade is the best weapon, obviously.


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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Dibsville on Sat May 11, 2013 2:42 pm

    Ghost Blade is too slow, can't be buffed, and bad R2s.
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    Re: The Almighty Dagger

    Post by Latitoast on Sat May 11, 2013 2:45 pm

    That's the point Dibs

    It's utterly useless outside of it's ability to hit ghosts, and even then using a Transient is better and so is the Cursed GSoA

    Now the Blacksmith Hammers, those are some mighty weapons.


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