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    Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Satoshi on Fri May 10, 2013 6:08 pm

    I have a question for, you guessed it, the Pyromancy Flame. I am making a build that will use an Ascended Flame in each hand as melee weapons, but I need to know, I have never used melee for the glove, so how much damage does it do, and does it scale with anything?

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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by User1 on Fri May 10, 2013 6:10 pm

    The Pyromancy Flame scales very well in Intelligence, yet still doesn't really do respectable damage. It gets notably higher as you ascend it, but not really good.
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri May 10, 2013 6:10 pm

    Scales with INT, does crap damage.

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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Satoshi on Fri May 10, 2013 6:11 pm

    Do you know roughly how much it can do with one melee hit?
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Dibsville on Fri May 10, 2013 6:12 pm

    It has an S scaling with Intelligence but low damage. I'd say about 100 damage max per hit.


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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by User1 on Fri May 10, 2013 6:12 pm

    Dependant on fire defence. Maybe around 100 for a person with 50 intelligence and Ascended Flame +5.
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri May 10, 2013 6:12 pm

    Not off the top of my head, I can test for you though. But I think it does 100ish, maybe less.

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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Satoshi on Fri May 10, 2013 6:14 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:Dependant on fire defence. Maybe around 100 for a person with 50 intelligence and Ascended Flame +5.

    That isn't TOO bad. I guess I could tweak the build a little to limit my spells.

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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Animaaal on Fri May 10, 2013 11:35 pm

    The pyrohand doesn't have a kick animation does it?
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Dibsville on Fri May 10, 2013 11:40 pm

    No, it doesn't.

    Did anyone else notice that 1.0.8 brought the Pyro Flames scaling down from S to A? Or am I just paranoid?


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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Fri May 10, 2013 11:42 pm

    Not from what I have tested with it Animaal.

    Dibs it was brought down to A scaling.


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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Animaaal on Fri May 10, 2013 11:43 pm

    Dibsville wrote:No, it doesn't.

    Did anyone else notice that 1.0.8 brought the Pyro Flames scaling down from S to A? Or am I just paranoid?

    Thanks.

    Outside of a 45 dex combustion combo (if it could kick), I cant see anything to justify it as having a practical melee function.

    Also, thanks too Soris.
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Satoshi on Fri May 10, 2013 11:59 pm

    I thank you all for your feedback. Pendant, I wish to see the results of your test. I have the build, but the problem is that I want to make it SL 99, not 100, and I don't know what stat to take off. The armor is for looks, not efficiency.

    https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=179514436722186629

    Not to go off topic, but can someone rate this build below for me? (I hope you get the joke.

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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat May 11, 2013 12:02 am

    Dude, get more Attunement on that Pyro build. As for the other one, it's a mid rolling GiantDad, I don't know. I still think the standard GiantDad is more effective.

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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Sat May 11, 2013 12:08 am

    Satoshi mind if I ask why you want a melee pryo glove build? It seems very ineffective in most cases.


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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Satoshi on Sat May 11, 2013 10:01 am

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Satoshi mind if I ask why you want a melee pryo glove build? It seems very ineffective in most cases.

    Well...it just seems really fun to do. I bet it will be ineffective, but it would be fun to try to get at least one win with it.
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Hue on Sat May 11, 2013 10:16 am

    The punch is also pretty slow, very short ranged, and you won't be able to backstab or parry, or kick.

    I'm guessing that one win will make you lose a few hairs.


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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Satoshi on Sat May 11, 2013 10:31 am

    Hachouma wrote:The punch is also prety slow, very short ranged, and you won't be able to backstab or parry, or kick.

    I'm guessing that one win will make you lose a few hairs.

    ...That seems unfortunate. Oh well, if I can (somehow) get lucky enough to get one win, most likely on a low-vit build. The chance is really low, but the payoff would be funny to see in my opinion.
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat May 11, 2013 12:09 pm

    Satoshi wrote: I have a question for, you guessed it, the Pyromancy Flame.

    i didn't guess anything, the title of the thread is "Pyromancy flame"

    why not just use some fire/chaos upgraded Cestus's, that way its still the punching fire, and you can BS/parry etc. you don't even need to fully upgrade them if you want them weaker


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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Hue on Sat May 11, 2013 12:38 pm

    Glutebrah wrote:
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat May 11, 2013 1:47 pm

    Hachouma wrote:
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    Dat avatar
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Jansports on Sun May 12, 2013 9:33 pm

    Would pay good money to get that stupid pyro punch replaced with a Kick(MH) or Parry(OH)

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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by Animaaal on Sun May 12, 2013 9:35 pm

    Jansports wrote:Would pay good money to get that stupid pyro punch replaced with a Kick(MH) or Parry(OH)

    Oh God, I never thought of it that way. "Pay to win" idc. I'd pay for it too. DLC viable for sure.
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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by ExplodingPenguin on Mon May 13, 2013 11:56 pm

    If you wanna punch people to death you might just join the Way of the Dragon Covenant than using the glove; you can punch quite a lot of people to death as a dragon.


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    Re: Pyromancy Flame

    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Tue May 14, 2013 10:57 am

    I read that thorns gauntlets increase punch damage. Not sure it's true. Something to think about if it does.

    Also the orange chard ring will add fire damage / effect to your kicks. May be a fun add on to your boxing pyro.


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