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    Post by dooshka on Thu May 09, 2013 4:20 pm

    Well folks,
    I am after a good fire weapon, chaos I thought, it is just that Wiki seems to state that it is a disappointing choice, so what do you think folks,



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    Post by User1 on Thu May 09, 2013 4:21 pm

    If you are investing in anything like Strength on something like a Demon Great Machete, elemental is not the way to go. Minimal stats are best for elementals.

    And I recommend the Chaos Server.
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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Thu May 09, 2013 4:39 pm

    I'm under the impression that chaos is the strongest of all elemental paths. Chaos is great if you don't plan on investing in scaling stats / buffs for whatever reason.


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    Post by RANT on Thu May 09, 2013 4:50 pm

    if you are gonna have base stats for the weapons I recommend the gargoyle halberds or the bastard sword.


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    Post by dooshka on Thu May 09, 2013 4:58 pm

    Much appreciated folks,



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    Post by dooshka on Thu May 09, 2013 5:48 pm

    Now then, there is a problem, you see, I do not really understand all that jargon, stats ect, cannot get my head around it, but I think I will go with the server,



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    Post by Shakie666 on Fri May 10, 2013 11:49 am

    Actually by far the best weapon is a +5 crystal demon's greataxe with 99 strength. No funny business, just mash 'em.

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    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Fri May 10, 2013 12:29 pm

    Gargoyles Halberd does a ton of damage on the elemental path, its a top choice.


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    Post by Elifia on Fri May 10, 2013 12:38 pm

    If you really want a chaos fire weapon for the sake of dealing fire damage: Quelaag's Furysword. It deals very high fire damage, especially at 10 humanity. It scales decently with Dex too, but it's still very good at base stats. In fact, it's my weapon of choice against 4 Kings on my SL10 NG+infinity runs.


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    Post by LunarFog on Fri May 10, 2013 12:50 pm

    With 10 humanity chaos is the strongest elemental path. The only way you can beat it is if you have a weapon with A scaling with a stat and 40-50 points in that stat.

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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri May 10, 2013 12:59 pm

    dooshka wrote:Now then, there is a problem, you see, I do not really understand all that jargon, stats ect, cannot get my head around it, but I think I will go with the server,



    thanks folks

    When you upgrade a weapon into an elemental path (lightning, fire, chaos), you sacrifice all scaling for a fixed amount of base damage. (You'll do the same amount regardless of how high your strength or dexterity is.) I'll use one of my favorite weapons as an example, the claymore.

    It has a C / C scaling in dex and strenght (meaning damage increases with points invested in both stats) To use it at near max scaling, you need 40 in both str and dex (or 28/40 str/dex split if two handing. ) That's a heavy investment.

    It's base requirements are 16 str and 10 dex. Not very high. Once you attain this base requirement, you can choose to go elemental. Now, the weapon will do a set amount of damage that doesn't change based on scaling stats (dex and str for this example).

    Advantages of elemental
    Elemental weapons are more than strong enough to finish the first play through
    respectable damage with very little soul level investment
    at base level requirements, most weapons will deal significantly higher damage

    Negatives of elemental
    gets outclassed by +15 weapon with near max scaling
    does split damage (meaning it has to bypass 2 types of resistances, physical + elemental)
    you can't buff them (dark moon blade, etc won't work on it)

    If there are any specific terms or mechanics that you don't understand, don't hesitate to ask. Hopefully I didn't confuse you even more.


    *edit* chaos is the strongest path but only if you have 10 humanity in your meter.
    If you don't have faith in your ability to keep 10 hu, you may be better off with fire or lightning. Don't forget that enemies have their own set of resistances so performance may vary based on what you're fighting.


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    Post by dooshka on Fri May 10, 2013 1:22 pm

    Thanx ever so much folks, a great help, and digital has cleared things up quite a bit,



    thanx again
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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri May 10, 2013 1:23 pm

    Glad I could help.


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    Post by JoeBurg on Fri May 10, 2013 1:45 pm

    Claymore and Gargoyle Halberd are always solid choices

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    Post by dooshka on Fri May 10, 2013 1:51 pm

    Cheers pal,

    I have been playing prepare to die edition, anyone know if the dragon head glitch is available, or similar, I know it aint proper gaming, but I mess about off-line , when I have free time as I am caring for my wife after major cancer operation, she is doing well, very well actually, so this game helps me retain my sanity,



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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri May 10, 2013 2:03 pm

    It got patched out a while ago. If you're playing the current version I think you're out of luck regarding the dragon head.

    I'm no expert on these things but I know there are other paths you can take for some shortcuts. Someone else will have to help you (through private messaging as discussing these things may be against forum policy).

    I'm really happy that your wife is recovering well. I have lost more than one family member to cancer. Keep fighting the good fight brother.


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    Post by dooshka on Fri May 10, 2013 2:05 pm

    Thanx D,
    sorry if i broke any rules, thanks for the good wish,s
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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri May 10, 2013 2:07 pm

    Just to clear up, you can discuss the existence of some of these shortcuts and how they effect the game. You just can't discuss the methods of preforming these "shortcuts".

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


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    Post by dooshka on Fri May 10, 2013 2:11 pm

    What shortcuts do exist, anyone know
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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri May 10, 2013 2:50 pm

    I send you a PM with the only thing I'm aware of. I've never attempted anything of the sort but maybe it's enough to point you in the right direction.


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    Post by TheMeInTeam on Fri May 10, 2013 4:21 pm

    How about some "shortcuts" that don't involve glitching or breaking game rules...IE "fastest way to acquire this in-game"?

    You can get some things pretty quickly with maxed MF if you know where to go for example, or over-killing the phalanx stuff with avarace + silver serpent in painted world.


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    Post by dooshka on Fri May 10, 2013 4:49 pm

    Sounds cool, please help me out here pal, much appreciated, thinking about going online, try it out, why not


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