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    Post by Saturday-Saint Wed May 08, 2013 10:50 pm

    Ease of use is overrated. Ability to generate hate mail is more important. Hence the tear list, a tier list that ranks equipment and spells on their ability to produce tears.

    S+ Tear - TWoD, Proper Bow
    S Tear - TWoP, Pursuers, Dark Bead, Darkwood Grain Ring, Point Down, Wave
    A Tear - Gold Tracer, Wrath of Gods, Mask of the Mother, Shrug
    B Tear - Katanas, Zweihanders, Spears, Hollow Warrior Waistcloth, Poison Arrows, Look Skyward
    C Tear - Everything else
    D Tear - Giant Armor, Mask of the Father, Chaos Zweihanders, Well What Is It

    Like every tier list every created this is 100% the opinions of its maker (Me). Post your opinions here so we can all talk about them and pretend they are as valid as mine.
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    Post by SirArchmage Wed May 08, 2013 11:07 pm

    Proper bow? What is wrong with that? The difference that I have with the bows is that I do a normal bow if I use a male character, and a proper one with a female character.
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    Post by Dibsville Wed May 08, 2013 11:10 pm

    If I see proper bow, I immediately switch to Crest Shield.
    And what do you know, 95% of the time it's because they're a mage.

    You forgot Chaos Gargoyle Halberd + Poise stacking for rank B :roll:
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    Post by Animaaal Wed May 08, 2013 11:44 pm

    You forgot spears...no wait...we're good.

    You did forget "talent trumps everything in the world" in S++, just sayin. Shrug
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Thu May 09, 2013 1:09 am

    you forgot power within, rtsr + all magic boosters pyro spam. also hornet dga with dmb bs fishing, that would be low tier cause bs fishing is easy to counter and make fun of but it is annoying to fight.
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    Post by Animaaal Thu May 09, 2013 1:28 am

    TWoD and the original Dragonhead Poison Knife Spit Glitch.
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    Post by SirArchmage Thu May 09, 2013 1:37 am

    I still do not fully understand. What is it that proper bows have to do with someone being a mage? And before I heard someone say that whenever they see someone proper bow they immediately pull out their pyromancy and try to spam the guy that proper bow'd. Is it just a random thing that happened or for specific reasons? I proper bow all the time, since my best characters are all females. No wonder I get all this hatemail >_>
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    Post by Dibsville Thu May 09, 2013 1:46 am

    From my experiences (me being both the victim and the person who does said thing), if someone uses proper bow, you should EXPECT at least one of three things:
    Backstab Fishing
    Magic of some kind
    Dark Wood Grain Ring

    If someone uses Proper Bow, all of my morals go out the window. I want them dead no matter what the cost is. The exception to this are Fight Clubs or set up matches, but otherwise I see proper bow as an invitation to do whatever I want.
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    Post by Sneezer Thu May 09, 2013 2:25 am

    I don't even like the look of the proper bow, looks much too feminine for me, I like the casual respectful look of the vanilla bow.
    Though I wave more than anything else.
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    Post by kazumoshi Thu May 09, 2013 2:47 am

    The jubilant "Joy" is almost always enough to signify a closing happiness in regards to the fights I participate in.

    Prostration is for forgiveness.

    Facepalm is for those special occasions.
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    Post by SirArchmage Thu May 09, 2013 2:50 am

    Ugh. If proper bow users are that hated(I enjoy that it is effeminant) I'll just stop doing it and go back to what I used to do. Just point forward at them.
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    Post by Dibsville Thu May 09, 2013 2:52 am

    I don't hate proper bow, I hate the people who use it.

    It's kind of like a Dark Souls version of stereotypes, to be more precise.
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    Post by Saturday-Saint Thu May 09, 2013 3:02 am

    People hate proper bow because Japs use it a lot and ~SL 120 they tend to be more tryhard than Euroscrubs and NAFTL's.
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    Post by Maneater_Mildred Thu May 09, 2013 4:51 am

    Dibsville wrote:I don't hate proper bow, I hate the people who use it.

    It's kind of like a Dark Souls version of stereotypes, to be more precise.

    So you hate me dibs, as im a proper bow user sad

    Good to know your feelings........

    *wanders off to the corner to cry*
    How will I sleep at night knowing dibs hates me.... sad
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    Post by Rynn Thu May 09, 2013 5:46 am

    I hate stigma. The only thing that really bothers me is those that gank. Even healers are not too obstusely of annoyance to me.
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    Post by xenon_nobelium Thu May 09, 2013 6:27 am

    if someone comes suspiciusly close and proper bows he's going to backstab you when you regular bow as proper bow has a much shorter animation.
    i learned the hard way that proper bow is the sign of the scumbag...
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    Post by AnCapaillMor Thu May 09, 2013 7:11 am

    Screw the bow, been bs'd too much with it, a wave will do. It can be a hello, while muttering i'm going to f*** you up under your breath. People get wound up too much, Honour ffs it's game. TWOP gets me i'll vent to myself but i won't send someone a mail over it, actualy i never initiate hate mail but if someone does me i generally tear them apart.
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    Post by Kirk-Barb Thu May 09, 2013 11:21 am

    I learned long ago bowing is a bad idea before a fight. I just shake my shield, buff, grass, etc when my foe bows. I save all that gesture stuff for after the fight.
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    Post by Frank Poole Thu May 09, 2013 11:35 am

    lol wtf is up with the proper bow hate? You people are ridiculous.
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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY Thu May 09, 2013 11:41 am

    That's interesting. I proper bow on female characters and wave to people all the time... If anything those seem like the most harmless of all emotes... I would think if nothing else the wave would be considered friendly. Maybe a little too much is read into that?

    If it encourages people to be more ruthless, I'll just keep doing it. Makes for a good fight. The Tear List 3358384175
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    Post by TheMeInTeam Thu May 09, 2013 12:15 pm


    I still do not fully understand. What is it that proper bows have to do with someone being a mage? And before I heard someone say that whenever they see someone proper bow they immediately pull out their pyromancy and try to spam the guy that proper bow'd. Is it just a random thing that happened or for specific reasons? I proper bow all the time, since my best characters are all females. No wonder I get all this hatemail >_>

    How many people who have made a lot of characters bother to grab Dusk stuff if they aren't doing a mage build? The expansion content made proper bow on non-mages a bit more likely since there is actually incentive to get rid of the hydra regardless, but I'd venture a guess that most people still wouldn't bother with Dusk unless they wanted to pick up her clothing.

    I like to chain proper bow on people who did something that annoyed me, for example if I backstab killed them or hit them with xbow while they tried to flask big grin.

    As for tears, they're best earned as a darkwraith, with nonsense equipment and cheap tactics...although I really enjoyed that video of people cosplaying the forest guardians as a host, standing still in their spot, then backstabbing hunters who run by.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Thu May 09, 2013 3:01 pm

    Putting Wave over Shrug? I always get more angry at shrug, and only do it when the opponent is being openly stupid, like activating TWoP and running right into my Dark Beads (I had a cat out) fishing for a bs, or running at me and spamming the mura r1 over and over.
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    Post by TheMeInTeam Thu May 09, 2013 4:50 pm

    I like to use the shrug if I get indicted...it just seems to fit the mood. Even if I bowed just before, if it says "you were indicted" I shrug at them lol.
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    Post by Dibsville Thu May 09, 2013 5:16 pm

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:I don't hate proper bow, I hate the people who use it.

    It's kind of like a Dark Souls version of stereotypes, to be more precise.

    So you hate me dibs, as im a proper bow user sad

    Good to know your feelings........

    *wanders off to the corner to cry*
    How will I sleep at night knowing dibs hates me.... sad

    I'm completely fine with people using it, I just hate when people use it, then use some stupid tactic to win then still use Proper Bow like they could win without it. I'm sure a few of them can win without it, but I don't come across any people who will readily give up something just to prove that.

    I used to use Proper Bow myself, because I thought if you used it you wanted a 'proper' fight; things like Hornet Ring, BS fishing, DWGR, poise tanking, etc, I used it because I didn't want any of those.

    Currently, if I use Proper Bow it's because I don't feel safe using Bow yet I want to show that I'm ready to fight back.

    I pretty much only use the Wave and Point Down gestures nowadays, unless I'm being forced to Bow.
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    Post by Animaaal Thu May 09, 2013 6:12 pm

    Proper "moon" Bow is op.

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