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    Post by Hue Tue May 07, 2013 6:01 am

    Now, i'm (still) at Manus, on my SL1,

    BUT
    There is that attack when the dark balls go all around, and back to him
    The pendant just refuses to block that, i tried every possible timing, none works, the balls still hit me, sometimes it works, very rarely, but i don't wanna risk it

    So i learned to dodge it, that's how i killed my NG+ Manus, but now, i don't have room for error, if i'm hit (which happens sometimes because i tend to screw up the timing, or DS3tool tends to screw up the circle button) i die instantly. So far, all my deaths were to these armor piercing homing balls of doom, my dodging is only slightly more reliable than the pendant.

    What do i do?
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    Post by VaDoom Tue May 07, 2013 6:13 am

    If you are close to him when he does the attack, the balls will stop before hitting you.
    You also can evade the rain attack this way..
    As for using the pendant, I think it works for the ball attack if you spam it.
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    Post by Werdax Tue May 07, 2013 6:16 am

    His dark bead happens to be my biggest problem. You are light weight right? As soon you see him slam his catalyst into the ground, rush towards him. That way, you stay safe from his dark magic and you are free to damage him while he recover.
    Stay cautious though, as he will get angry with you if you stay near him for too long.
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    Post by Hue Tue May 07, 2013 6:26 am

    I try to, i tried to rush him as soon as he stomps his catalyst on the floor, but i can't make it before the balls

    This is weird, because i can avoid his two other attacks very easily, with or without pendant
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    Post by Frank Poole Tue May 07, 2013 11:02 am

    If you spam the pendant, the field stays around until you stop spamming, creating a permanent barrier. With no more than 3 quick pendant hits, you should be able to block all of his dark magic attacks.
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    Post by LunarFog Tue May 07, 2013 11:19 am

    DWGR?
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    Post by bl0odyMe5s Tue May 07, 2013 11:32 am

    Hachouma wrote:I try to, i tried to rush him as soon as he stomps his catalyst on the floor, but i can't make it before the balls

    This is weird, because i can avoid his two other attacks very easily, with or without pendant

    Well, the solution is quite obvious to me here. All you have to do is stay closer to him. That way, you will definitely be able get close enough to him before the attack hits you.
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    Post by Pilgrim34 Tue May 07, 2013 2:33 pm

    Well, the solution is quite obvious to me here. All you have to do is
    stay closer to him. That way, you will definitely be able get close
    enough to him before the attack hits you.

    Exactly this, stay as close to him as you possibly can for as long as you can, all his attacks are blockable/dodgeable. I know your situation is harder being sl 1 but I think you are more likely to manage the fight by doing this since blocking is probably out of the question given that your stamina will be low.
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    Post by Hue Tue May 07, 2013 2:52 pm

    But when i stay close to him for too long, he does his roar-apeshit attack and it is impossible to dodge

    I prefer staying at mid range and baiting his hand stretch-slam, or his jump attack
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    Post by befowler Tue May 07, 2013 3:21 pm

    Pendant is the easiest, but if you are iffy on that, I would stay locked on Manus and just watch as the circle closes behind him. It is centered on him, so you can use that as a frame of reference to roll directly backwards/away from him through the orbs closing in on you from behind at the same speed. I do this regularly with a midroller and it works fine, plus it lets you immediately block or dodge his follow up attacks in a way that the pendant or running to hide under his skirts often doesn't.

    If you are far enough out when he starts this attack, you can also just run between the gaps in the orbs before the circle closes, but you have to lose track of Manus to do that safely (if you try it, I recommend using the auto camera recovery that is the R3 stick push on the PS3 at least, so you don't lose time swinging your camera by hand).
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    Post by Elifia Tue May 07, 2013 3:24 pm

    Hachouma wrote:But when i stay close to him for too long, he does his roar-apeshit attack and it is impossible to dodge

    I prefer staying at mid range and baiting his hand stretch-slam, or his jump attack

    That's how I did it too. The only of his attacks where I could reliably fit in an attack of my own were the hand-stretch slam, hand-stretch swipe and jump attack. I was using Lightning Zwei and DWGR (on my SL10 in NG++).

    I had no problem with the silver pendant timing though. The shield lasts a little while after you finish the animation, so you should try to finish the animation right before the dark magic hits. Or spam it. I think spamming it should give you an uninterrupted shield.
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    Post by Hue Tue May 07, 2013 4:28 pm

    I can spam it as soon as the catalyst starts lighting up, the balls still hit me, that's why i made this thread

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