[SL100] The Dark Turlte

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    [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Seignar on Thu May 02, 2013 10:52 pm

    One false move is all it takes
    Trade hits...I will win.
    Poke...I will win.
    Range...I will win.
    Pressure...I will win.
    TWoP?...I will win.
    Backstab fishing...I might win.

    I win.

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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Satoshi on Thu May 02, 2013 10:54 pm

    Well, seems like you have a good build there...luckily, countering that build doesn't seem too hard. One word...parry.
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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by CrackSouls on Thu May 02, 2013 10:59 pm

    Interesting... Would like to see it in action. PSN?

    Also, isn't your attunement a little low to fight a ranged character, though? Although I suppose the shield fixes most of that.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Animaaal on Thu May 02, 2013 11:01 pm

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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Thu May 02, 2013 11:03 pm

    Satoshi is right. All it takes is to parry you. Now for me, I would add nit-picking hits and let your bleed take care of you.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Satoshi on Thu May 02, 2013 11:07 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Satoshi is right. All it takes is to parry you. Now for me, I would add nit-picking hits and let your bleed take care of you.

    Lifehunt Scythe. One of the few weapons that I have that makes me ashamed I am alive...I hated to have to kill Priscilla and Sif. I have to agree with you, Soris. Parrying and bleed/toxic can be the end of them.
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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Seignar on Thu May 02, 2013 11:11 pm

    Parry me? What do you take me for, a casul? 1 word: Deadangle. Also, how do you parry magic?

    Also, isn't your attunement a little low to fight a ranged character, though? Although I suppose the shield fixes most of that.
    Unlock, side run. You'll need 15 times as much range skills as the average player to hit me.

    Also, you people don't seem to understand that at the first hint of aggresion (required for bleed), you're all going to get a Dark Bead to the face!


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Animaaal on Thu May 02, 2013 11:13 pm

    Seignar wrote:... Also, how do you parry magic?...

    I think you can bro.

    I say again ???<--inside joke

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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Satoshi on Thu May 02, 2013 11:14 pm

    Seignar wrote:

    Also, you people don't seem to understand that at the first hint of aggresion (required for bleed), you're all going to get a Dark Bead to the face!

    You can roll past Dark Bead and get a free hit or, if you dare, two hits to add up bleed. Eventually, you WILL run out of magic mid-battle if someone plays their cards right. You also just pointed out your own weakness for your crossbow. You might have Havel's Shield, but your slow-swinging weapon can be easily parried, especially by buckler users. I am not dissing on your build, I just feel that some things could be touched upon.

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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Seignar on Thu May 02, 2013 11:18 pm

    @Animaaal:

    Dragon GS is a Special Attack not magic!

    @Above:
    You're forgetting that you're implying that you bait the Dark Bead, what if I Frame Trap you? Also, didn't I just say deadangles counter any parry attemps. Or even a kick?

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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Dibsville on Thu May 02, 2013 11:19 pm

    There's this cool little weapon.
    It's called a Shotel.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Satoshi on Thu May 02, 2013 11:23 pm

    Seignar wrote:@Animaaal:

    @Above:
    You're forgetting that you're implying that you bait the Dark Bead, what if I Frame Trap you? Also, didn't I just say deadangles counter any parry attemps. Or even a kick?

    Oh! I apologize that I didn't see that earlier. I would like to know, what's a "Frame Trap?" Is that like using lag to your advantage and hitting them while in their view, it does not get to them?

    Also, I agree with Dibsville, the Shotel is a great counter. You musn't forget, others can also dead angle you. Everything in your arsenal can be used against you.
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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Thu May 02, 2013 11:25 pm

    If you have the int, great magic shield with a +5 crest shield make magic worthless if you can take a hit. Otherwise just dodge and dodge and you will be left with no magic, and pursuers is not that bad. Why use a lifehunt scythe when you have the chaos blade? They both weight the same and the chaos blade is faster and I have been told I dead angle a lot with it. You can't dodge a hit so a few great fire balls or chaos fire balls will hurt you. I might be able to take you out with the MLGS R1 and R2 attacks from a distance.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Satoshi on Thu May 02, 2013 11:28 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:If you have the int, great magic shield with a +5 crest shield make magic worthless if you can take a hit. Otherwise just dodge and dodge and you will be left with no magic, and pursuers is not that bad. Why use a lifehunt scythe when you have the chaos blade? They both weight the same and the chaos blade is faster and I have been told I dead angle a lot with it. You can't dodge a hit so a few great fire balls or chaos fire balls will hurt you. I might be able to take you out with the MLGS R1 and R2 attacks from a distance.

    I am honestly afraid of using the Chaos Blade. I have heard that the damage you take while using it is so high that the damage you take using it is more than the damage you take from the enemy.
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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Dibsville on Thu May 02, 2013 11:33 pm



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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Thu May 02, 2013 11:36 pm

    Nope Satoshi. You only take 20 or 25 damage per hit with the blade. If you have the vit and can manage it well, you can survive the weapon's health drain. It scales extra with humanity and from what I seen, and I have been using this weapon for a long time, and parry can take a half of the foes hp down. Turtles like to think that the hp drain can kill you but their bleed meter can backfire on them. It is a weapon of skill I have learned to master. Mostly through countless training sessions and partly through Miyamoto Musashi book: The Book of Five Rings and the Ni Ten Ichi Ryu way of strategy.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Seignar on Thu May 02, 2013 11:37 pm

    Fream Trap means to catch you with an attack while you're already incapable of doing something because you're already doing something else. For example, trading hits with Dark Bead, you can't dodge Dark Bead because you aren't allowed to dodge while you're doing an attack.

    This is all just theoretical debate. We need to do what matters, test it out.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Dibsville on Thu May 02, 2013 11:38 pm

    Fast roll says you won't.
    Plus, I'm a duel-wielder, you think you're going to hit me and not go unpunished, especially when I have a shield?
    I'd love these parries.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by RANT on Thu May 02, 2013 11:41 pm

    good build dude, looks like a pain in the *** to fight. I guess people haven't fought you and don't know how good you are, yes everything has counter but it only works as good as whoever it is that it's doing the actual countering, the shotel might not be a good idea since 2hing his msgs and going at it against you will mosst likely end up beign better for seig. anyway, dks is unplayable for me, that damn flickering is no distracting.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Dibsville on Thu May 02, 2013 11:43 pm

    MSGS will get him roll BS'd with fast roll, I can also roll BS Dark Bead.
    And of course I could always parry him


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by reim0027 on Thu May 02, 2013 11:45 pm

    Bait you into missing your dark magic, exhaust dark magic, win.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Dibsville on Thu May 02, 2013 11:46 pm

    ^This


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by RANT on Thu May 02, 2013 11:47 pm

    Dibsville wrote:MSGS will get him roll BS'd with fast roll, I can also roll BS Dark Bead.
    And of course I could always parry him

    lol msgs or greatswords in general are one of the easiest weapons to counter bs with, the 1h attack still sunlocks and is perfect for those boring roll bs'ers.


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by Dibsville on Thu May 02, 2013 11:48 pm

    My point, it only breaks 51 poise. happy
    Also, I have a Buckler, and I know how to use it!


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    Re: [SL100] The Dark Turlte

    Post by RANT on Thu May 02, 2013 11:50 pm

    you cant use it if he's dead angling, it's actually really easy to dead angle with it and it will hit you twice while youre trying to roll bs him, people usually only have 53 poise unless their ssl is higher than 100.


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