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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:30 pm

    I think it is the toxic that makes it a hated weapon. I mean bleed can half your hp but then that is it. With toxic you got a gradual effect of hp drain that moves fast. It will kill you fast after a bit.
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:31 pm

    They hate it cuz they're casul n00bs
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:33 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:I think it is the toxic that makes it a hated weapon. I mean bleed can half your hp but then that is it. With toxic you got a gradual effect of hp drain that moves fast. It will kill you fast after a bit.

    Well, I use the Gravelord Greatsword when I am in the forest, I rarely use it in duels. In a 2v1, I won with the Gravelord then got hatemail for using an 'unfair' weapon. I chuckled how they were ganging up on me, but I didn't bother them anymore.

    Oh, and someone tell me, what does "casul" mean?
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:36 pm

    casul means casual, like people who play games without using skill
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:38 pm

    ResIsBestStat wrote:casul means casual, like people who play games without using skill

    I see. They had some skill though, sadly, they used dark magic again and again with no delay.
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    Post by User1 Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:42 pm

    ResIsBestStat wrote:They hate it cuz they're casul n00bs

    People hate this joke because it's been used far too much.
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:44 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:
    ResIsBestStat wrote:They hate it cuz they're casul n00bs

    People hate this joke because it's been used far too much.

    I've only heard that joke once or twice.
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    Post by User1 Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:46 pm

    Are you new here by any chance?

    If you are, I'm not surprised.

    I've seen so many cases of it being used here in my excessive time spent here, it's just tiresome to see.
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:48 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:Are you new here by any chance?

    If you are, I'm not surprised.

    I've seen so many cases of it being used here in my excessive time spent here, it's just tiresome to see.

    I've been a member for a month and a half, but I've been stalking the forums for much longer than that.
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    Post by xenon_nobelium Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:50 pm

    i think i need to bring up the greatshield as my biggest gripe with this build. with that stat investment you're much better off with black knight or str weapons, way too high for a elemental build imo. also the elemental scaling goes up to 50fth, i strongly suggest to get a lighter shield and reduce str investment. with the extra levels you can either stay @ slvl100 as there is a lot of good action to be had or maximize scaling and/or get higher poise and better roll speed.
    f.e.: http://mmdks.com/23l8 this would be a major improvement if you ask me. menu swap to the great scythe or any other 6.0wght weapon you want. i'd try a lighter shield and put a divine composite bow with moonlight arrows in there for really strong magic projectile support.
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    Post by User1 Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:51 pm

    You need to venture further into Off-Topic, Satoshi.

    I guarantee you, you'll see more cases of it there. And, judging by my points, I spend a load of time there.
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    Post by Animaaal Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:54 pm

    HSWC...... :Baal01:

    Nice build though.
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    Post by SirArchmage Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:57 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:Are you new here by any chance?

    If you are, I'm not surprised.

    I've seen so many cases of it being used here in my excessive time spent here, it's just tiresome to see.
    I think his whole point is to make a joke of it. It seems that he posts similar to me. Near everything he says is a joke or a reference to something >_>

    Also, I suggest putting the DMB on the Great Scythe, two handing it, don't lock on to the guy and either do the heavy attach or running attack. Heavy attack with the buff can easily one or two hit them, and the running attack you can keep doing it and running to the side, just barely nicking them with how huge the weapon is. Plus, the running attack seems to be it's fastest(and most badass looking) attack. Just watch your stamina. Takes a lot of endurance to pull this off.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:00 pm

    Those two builds are really viable for combat. Still why replenishment? You could swap it for Karmic justice and deal some surprise damage to anyone spamming.
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    Post by SirArchmage Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:02 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Those two builds are really viable for combat. Still why replenishment? You could swap it for Karmic justice and deal some surprise damage to anyone spamming.
    Karmic Justice works kind of funny sometimes, plus, if you mess up right at the beginning of the fight you can run away and heal so you aren't at an instant disadvantage.
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:06 pm

    Animaaal wrote:HSWC...... :Baal01:

    Nice build though.

    What's HSWC?



    SirArchmage wrote:
    I think his whole point is to make a joke of it. It seems that he posts similar to me. Near everything he says is a joke or a reference to something >_>

    Also, I suggest putting the DMB on the Great Scythe, two handing it, don't lock on to the guy and either do the heavy attach or running attack. Heavy attack with the buff can easily one or two hit them, and the running attack you can keep doing it and running to the side, just barely nicking them with how huge the weapon is. Plus, the running attack seems to be it's fastest(and most badass looking) attack. Just watch your stamina. Takes a lot of endurance to pull this off.

    I am always cautious about stamina, so I don't think I will have to worry about the running attack.

    I made some edits to Xenon's suggestion to get some extra defense on their but maintain a fast roll.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=294860280740660913

    I basically kept full Paladin's, but in return, I decided to use the Parrying dagger instead of the shield so I can keep the weight down. I also replaced Replenishment with Darkmoon Blade because the first time, Replenishment was just for health regeneration, but with some testing, I could tell I didn't need it. I might put Karmic Justice in there if I will fight a spammer.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:10 pm

    Karmic Justice has it's place and the surprise of it does make it powerful counter or a life saver. Also I think it can suit the exorcist theme nicely.
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:13 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Karmic Justice has it's place and the surprise of it does make it powerful counter or a life saver. Also I think it can suit the exorcist theme nicely.

    It's funny, I have never used Karmic Justice because I could never understand it. Is it that if you get hit enough times in a certain time frame, you use a WoTG-like attack?
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    Post by Animaaal Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:15 pm

    The "skirt" looking armor.

    Also Karmic Justice activates while blocking, just as long as you are taking some damage.

    So running off to heal is not always necessary.

    The effigy would work great in conjunction with Karmic Justice.
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:16 pm

    Animaaal wrote:The "skirt" looking armor.

    Also Karmic Justice activates while blocking, just as long as you are taking some damage.

    So running off to heal is not always necessary.

    The effigy would work great in conjunction with Karmic Justice.

    So...blocking with a weapon while still taking minor damage can still activate Karmic Justice?
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    Post by Animaaal Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:17 pm

    yes
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:19 pm

    Animaaal wrote:yes

    Well, that's really good. It also makes me think. Why not remove the Parrying Dagger if I can just parry with my sword and block with my Halberd/Great Scythe?

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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:22 pm

    You could use a grass crest shield or the sanctus for the karmic justice.
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    Post by Animaaal Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:23 pm

    First off

    Here ya go: Karmic Justice - @@KARMIC JUSTICE Explained (with video) @@

    Add also, I gotta pee...
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    Post by Satoshi Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:29 pm

    The Grass Crest Shield might not be the best choice. I know it has the increased stamina regeneration, but I give up fast rolling and using the bow. If I went with the Grass crest, I think my first build would be better due to not losing much and being able to use more spells.

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