172HP or 32 Stamina?

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    172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:28 pm

    After I started using pure melee, I haven't used a mage build. That was about 2 months ago. I decided to be a jackass and make a mage build, but I can't decide whether to go with Havel's Ring or Ring of FaP. Which one should I go with?
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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:48 pm

    Are these for dueling or random invasions?...and not all mages/spellswords are jackasses btw.

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    I said RoFaP because a mage rarely needs Havels...depending....

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    I also see this is in the "pve" section, but the builds sorta reflect duelers....


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:51 pm

    This is for random Township invasions.


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:55 pm

    I never like to just, "You should do this instead or whatever" when someone makes their builds. I always try to stick to the authors preferences.

    I have a couple questions as a result...but first kudos for making brave builds with a lot of weapon diversity.

    1) Whats your favorite weapon outta the bunch?

    2) Are you familiar with any casting combos? If so, whats some of your favorites?

    3) Are you dead set on low health? Swapping RT maybe?

    4) Have you ever played low poise builds?

    I have a couple suggestions, but unsure of how to make them....



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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:01 pm

    1. Enchanted Rapier. I make Rapier builds all the time. You'd be surprised how good I can do without backstabbing or parries.
    2. Besides the basic Pursuers -> Dark Bead or HSM -> Soul Spear, none.
    3. Yes, I'll be using RT. I never make a build that can't swap out to it without losing their current roll.
    4. My old mage had 0 poise, I used it for about a month.


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Latitoast on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:06 pm

    Any reason why you'd take a normal Rapier over Velka's?

    Doesn't Velka's have better scaling?


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:07 pm

    K, I gotta feed the kids(the society frowns upon it if I don't), and I'm go on mugen for awhile.

    I got some ideas you might like. If you dont, thats fine too...as a matter of fact you might not lol. But I'll try and give you some stuff to chew on.

    In the meantime, a MLGS build kinda screams no castings. HCSM would go well with it (so would pursuers I guess), but outside of that, the MLGS is pretty awesome by itself.


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:07 pm

    Latitoast wrote:Any reason why you'd take a normal Rapier over Velka's?

    Doesn't Velka's have better scaling?

    The rapier crits harder, but Velka's is....I love it soooo much. Its an awesome sword/rapier.
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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:09 pm

    I would prefer Velka's but it weighs more and I prefer the Rapiers R2. It has a huge range, which is why I chose it over some other weapon. Also, at 50 INT the Enchanted Rapier deals more damage than Velka's.
    On top of that, this build is for random invasions. So I'll be needing the backstab bonus. I know that the MLGS, being a Greatsword, will do just as much for a backstab, but the Rapier comes with the Turtling bonus.


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Latitoast on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:16 pm

    I see, Mr. Dibs.

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    One more question for this interview.

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    Why not a Soul Spear or Crystal Soul Spear? It says here you're using Great Soul Arrow.


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:31 pm

    Great Soul Arrow hits 500s which is more than enough, it also has 5x more casts.


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Latitoast on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:33 pm

    Interesting.

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    That will be all.


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    Re: 172HP or 32 Stamina?

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:37 pm

    Velka Love

    -7 poise for daggers.

    -You cant see SMS on a Darkhand.

    -Pyro for GMBs and Crest Shields.

    -BDCR boosts all offensive castings attuned in this build.

    -12 Dark Beads man….

    -EXCELLENT defenses for the weight.

    -I believe all rapiers get a backstab and riptose damage bonus simply for being a rapier, although Velka’s is statistically lower. However, the moveset is so fun/sweet that its hard to pass up.

    Now of course you can swap the head for the elf ears, the ninja flip for the Coloranthy, and all kinds of other things, but you did say invader.

    Your builds have a lot going on. With that poise to hp ratio, you'll find yourself dead before having a chance to see the poise benefits imo.

    If you wanted to boost your power with this build, you easily could, but Dark Bead is strong enough as is, and I'd consider a Hornet's Ring as a replacement to compliment the DWGR maybe.

    You could attune Power Within and Red Tearstone if you wanted.

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