Is this a good challenge?

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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by twigsterxd on Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:46 am

    I spent 2 hours on youtube yesterday watching walkthru's. Every single person went naked as they did speed runs through the asylum. watching how much hp they were losing from weak mobs, imo, you guys should maybe limit healing to 1 or 2. Or at least be allowed to heal at boss fog so you can go in full health. Don't forget O&S, two bosses you have to evade at same time. You don't want to enter a boss fight with 30 hp on your counter, ring or not. Capra as I said before gonna be nasty, if you have very low hp and you not fast enough, you could get pinned and dead right off the bat.
    Something to consider bud, maybe adjust some of your rules just for the very difficult bosses, like Capra and O&S. This way it doesn't take 50 tries to kill them, (if you seem to die alot that is).


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by twigsterxd on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:22 am

    Thought about this while on a smoke break. YES your challenge got me thinking lol.
    When you get to either Demon ruins or izalith, you gonna be stopped there. Mainly because of no healing that lava gonna kill you, (this is before you get orange ring).
    Here's a suggestion to try;
    Start your toon using the rules you posted, play offline so you don't get invaded. Do undead berg and parish to get a feel on how the game will play out. If that seems fine, do either Capra or blight town, (going back way of course). See how challenging that is and adjust your rules to what you think works. I know you told me no phantoms, does that include npc's? It may not be impossible, but like I said before, it may take a month to get to end game.
    I also agree with vagetta, 4 kings is gonna be nasty with your weapon choice. I usually have a +5 divine halberd and that even sucked lol. But then again my builds are always crap


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Satoshi on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:06 pm

    First off, don't smoke, it's bad for you. Secondly, I do have to agree with you, O&S and Capra Will be quite tough, but during all of last night, I came up with strategies against them that I could use to raise my survival expectancy up with them. I might use the boss fog idea in case it will be needed. I am not going to use npc phantoms as well as player phantoms. I am loving your ideas. I was thinking that when/IF I can beat the run, the rules will change and you may use different weapons and armor...only if the poise/damage is equal to or lower. The rule of no shield would still apply though. And finally, don't smoke, it's bad for you.

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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:09 pm

    So are video games...they rot your brain!!!! :affraid:
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:11 pm

    In my opinion, the only hard one will be the Four Kings.
    Assuming you're letting it go to +5, you have to remember that people already fight Capra with +5 weapons, so doing it will be like any other playthrough. Even without upgrading it, it's still an easy fight.
    Ornstien and Smough will be easy because you can easily split them apart with the pillars. It's more a matter of time.
    Four Kings will most likely be the only problem.


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Satoshi on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:19 pm

    I personally pictured Capra and O&S as a mid-sized obstacle. I can exploit the stairs easily for Capra, but for O&S, I am going to get Ornstein's souls (every time.) It seems like Ornstein as a time of "recoil" after an attack that will give me a few precious moments to hit Smough a couple times and repeat. The Four Kings are actually the monolith in my way. The power of that boss is incredible. I can't wait to start this run.
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:24 pm

    I'd go with Super Smough on this one.
    Although I consider Ornstien much easier, Super Smough's attacks are extremely easy to read. At this level with this equipment, you're better off killing Ornstien first.


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by ResIsBestStat on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:25 pm

    I find Ornstein super easy when he's giant, Smough is also easy
    The only problem of this boss is the annoying lock on gimmick and the fact that you are being attacked 2 times at once
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Satoshi on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:26 pm

    You do have a point there. I will start this run in three hours. (My left arm is working again.)
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by ResIsBestStat on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:27 pm

    Satoshi wrote: You do have a point there. I will start this run in three hours. (My left arm is working again.)

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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:28 pm

    Good luck, I'll probably try this later.
    Are you allowing +5 or are you staying unupgraded?


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Satoshi on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:30 pm

    Unupgraded until a wall, then +5, nothing beyond that milestone. It would be nice to have others try the challenge, personally, I am shaking from excitement, one of the reasons I need to wait three hours is that my arm is still a little sluggish and doesn't respond at the speed I prefer.
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:32 pm

    I've done some pretty insane challenges, but this one might top them. I'll definitely give it a go soon.


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by ResIsBestStat on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:34 pm

    My most insane challenge: No upgrade, no bonfire, no level run

    Seriously don't try
    I quit after Ornstein and Smough
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:35 pm

    This one is harder.


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by ResIsBestStat on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:36 pm

    Dibsville wrote:This one is harder.

    I know, the thing up there is just my most insane challenge, and i didn't even finish it!

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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Satoshi on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:38 pm

    What class are you starting with? I would like to repeat. No bows, firebombs, dung pies, spells, or any kind of ranged combat is allowed. Even magic weapons or combustion is not allowed.

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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    I'll be starting as a Knight for the Broadsword and good beginning health.


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by User1 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:41 pm

    I dispute that, Satoshi.
    I am the lord.
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:43 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:I dispute that, Satoshi.
    I am the lord.
    Debatable.

    That reminds me, can we equip rings?


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by ResIsBestStat on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:43 pm

    Can we use Prism stones?
    I'm not really sure since prisms are underrated weapons that dish out good damage
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Satoshi on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:44 pm

    Well. I am starting as a warrior for the balanced stats and decent starting gear. My friend is becoming a bandit for the ax. If you are going for the Knight, the long sword does more damage. Also, if you don't plan on fat rolling, part of your armor might need to leave. I honestly love the long sword, it is my second favorite straight sword, right behind the Dark Sword.
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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:44 pm

    I have to admit this is pretty crazy to try, but it sounds very interesting and I wish you luck.


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:46 pm

    I'm choosing the Broadsword over the Longsword for the higher stamina damage and the better moveset, the stab takes too much stamina to be viable in this challenge. Plus, the 2H Longsword has the same moveset as the Broadsword.


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    Re: Is this a good challenge?

    Post by Satoshi on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:48 pm

    RenegadeCop, I am watching you...back on topic now, for rings, only the red tearstone ring is allowed. Prism stones will not be used, only your starting weapon. Soris, I really appreciate it.

    Edit: Oh, I see, thank you for the insight about the Broadsword.


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