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    Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by GenericUsername on Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:09 am

    Pretty much what the title says. What is the BP you've had the most trouble with? I'm going to throw in Demon's souls phantoms as well just for variety. Or maybe you're going to say " but GenericUsername, I'm a dark souls master, I don't have trouble with phantoms ". Well then, are there any black phantoms you would have liked to see added?

    For me, I'd say Leeroy gives me a bit of grief. Not that he's ever killed me, but it just annoys me that he runs at me guarding so I cant greatbow spam him off a ledge.

    But I think Selen Vinland was the most difficult. You were stuck in a swamp where you couldn't roll or dodge but she could, she had Blind which could cut right through your shield, had anti magic field field to disable magic, and had healing miracles.
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by ShadowStalker on Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:54 am

    i always got wrecked by the BP in the swamp in demons souls, world 5-2 :x
    that damn meat cleaver, and satsuki could be a pain at lower levels lol!
    "human" BP's in dks are kinda weak tho :p
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Werdax on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:08 am

    I haven't played DeS, so I can't state my opinion about the BP there.
    In Dark Souls, I say Chester is the biggest pain. That sweep kick of his have a very large ranch and damage, and he got a deadly precision with his crossbow.
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:20 am

    Satsuki the others could be cheesed with a bow or death cloud, satsuki didn't give you a chance and the git healed plus there was a chance of the skeleton getting brought into the mix.


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Solid Knight on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:22 am

    The only one that I feel the need to actually prepare for is Scirvir. Why? That stupid fireball of his and you can't really retreat. Most of the black phantoms are easy to kill with the knight sword (my weapon of choice) since it's quick enough to intercept their attacks and enable me to combo them to death. Scirvir seems to have a lot of VIT though.
    Runner up would be the ones in the swamp simply because you can't roll but it's easy enough just to stand on land with a spear and keep them stunned.
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by ShadowStalker on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:30 am

    AnCapaillMor wrote:Satsuki the others could be cheesed with a bow or death cloud, satsuki didn't give you a chance and the git healed plus there was a chance of the skeleton getting brought into the mix.

    u can cheese satsuki aswell, graverobbers ring or whatever its called and poison cloud.
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:05 am

    For DeS, Selen. Oh freaking Selen. I hate you so very much. And that Blind of hers.

    AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    For DkS, it would have to be those BP Bonewheel Skeletons and Skeleton dogs. Those f*ucking things. Still not as annoying as Selen. :evil:


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:18 am

    It was the environment that made selen such a b***h, you could only roll on a small patch of land and then the weapon ignored shields, her healing didn't help either, gave up trying to beat her fairly, morion blade, rat ring, sticky compound longbow+5 was the only way i ever took her out.


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Tchuwib on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:54 am

    I wanted to say Selen too at first, but I normally beat her in normal melee combat and a few magic hit when the barrier go away. Probably consider her more since my buddy didn't do well against her and we had to copy blind sword for him to have the trophy. But then, AnCapaillMor mentionned satsuki and that reminded me of my first playthrough. I didn't understand the world tendency at the time and was starting my NG+. I got invaded a bit too much in 4-1 and die a lot. But with the stack of Neph eye I revived and kept going. Until I left for the nexus and came back. I've never die or try so hard in my life to get pass him. I could probably do better against him now, but back then, he was my worst nightmare.

    But that's it tho, the BP in DarkS don't stand near those from demonsoul. Because in DeS, those BP had way higher HP and dmg then the human form. Human form is what we get for BP invader in DaS, so that's why it's so easy. It would have been harder if there was some kind of Gravelord version of them, that would have been Swwweeett!!

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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:34 am

    Stone knights, if you get GL'd while dueling and they appear....you have no chance, back when the old FC first started going to the Moonpit (Butterpit) i was on NG+++ and hosting when they spawned......3 bloody weeks they was there!


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by skarekrow13 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:06 am

    Satsuki with Selen a very close second. Although (I forget his name) the guy with the Talisman of Beasts was also a pain in the smaller arena and his tendency to blast you for crazy damage.

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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Odinbear on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:07 am

    The BP's in DkS are a joke compared to any in DS. I did not like the swamp BP nor the BP Matilda . matilda kicked my arse quite a few times and the swamp BP just scared the hell outta me.


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Shindori on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:23 am

    lol I'm gonna do a stream on friday where I take on a Knight of Berineke Black Phantom on NG+7 on my lvl 20 by invading someone else's world. Meaning no healing or anything. c:


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Nybbles on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:30 am

    Selen Vineland was the one i dreaded the most because shields are useless she has that anti magic miracle oh and that friggen poison swamp

    Executioner Miralda was next but only because i always ended up fighting her at a really low level so she would one shot me half a dozen times before i could kill her

    Satsuki was a pain because of his moon grass addiction

    Skirver the Wanderer was fairly easy once he ran out of magic

    Lord Rydel could be cheesed with a bow

    Garl Vineland was easy to parry but if you ever missed…smoosh

    all the NPC BPs in DKS are pushovers, but some of the BP mobs are terrifying
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:31 am

    skarekrow13 wrote: Although (I forget his name) the guy with the Talisman of Beasts was also a pain in the smaller arena and his tendency to blast you for crazy damage.

    Scirvir i think, that dude invented the term pyro spamming, his health regen didn't help either.

    Oh forgot about 1-3 and that bit where you get sandwiched between 2 BP Fat Ministers.
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:46 am

    Yeah, Scirvir and the Maneater Mildred from 5-2 in Demon's were beasts. But, for me it has to be BP Lord Rydell. I cheesed him with one toon and tried to fight him straight up on another and I eventually gave up -- and I'm a stubborn SOB. I got DkS shortly after and haven't tried again.


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Walter_White on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:05 pm

    Selen - and the BP of DkS should be ashamed and crawl back into their holes, not worth to mention them


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by ShadowStalker on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:15 pm

    would be fun to see Tarkus as a BP, too bad they didnt make that sad
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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by Automancer on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:48 pm

    ^No one will ever beat BP Tarkus. Ever.


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    Re: Most difficult Black Phantom?

    Post by ShadowStalker on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:48 pm

    ^
    guess ur right, hes awesome big grin

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