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Good weapon for a quality build?
morte- Obsessed
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Good weapon for a quality build?
I've heard that there are some weapons that make good quality build weapons, better than pure strength or dexterity. Anybody know some, cuz mugenmonkey seems to think that there is little better than a pure strength or dexterity melee weapon.
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Re: Good weapon for a quality build?
Sunlight Straight Sword
Longsword
Claymore
Bastard Sword
Zweihander (not true quality, but still good)
Broadsword
Longsword
Claymore
Bastard Sword
Zweihander (not true quality, but still good)
Broadsword
morte- Obsessed
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Really? Mugenmonkey says that the uchi is superior to all 1h weapons, is the calculator off? I really want to do a 1h quality build, but I guess it's looking like it's going to be 2h. Meh, had to happen sometime.
User1- Abyss Dweller
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Re: Good weapon for a quality build?
Look at the scaling in-game. C/C for DEX and STR, therefore logically making them better for quality builds.
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Spears. That is all
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I like the washing pole think its a d/c scaling.
Forum Pirate- Chosen Undead
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Re: Good weapon for a quality build?
How is the zweihander not a true quality weapon? just because its slow and heavy doesn't mean its not a quality weapon. Quality is a term thats carried over from des. Its an upgrade path, that alters the scaling to be more balanced than "pure" str or dex. At C-C, the zweihander is a quality weapon in that it benefits just as much from dex as str.
Myztyrio- Insomniac
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Most Halberds.
User1- Abyss Dweller
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Re: Good weapon for a quality build?
Forum Pirate wrote:How is the zweihander not a true quality weapon? just because its slow and heavy doesn't mean its not a quality weapon. Quality is a term thats carried over from des. Its an upgrade path, that alters the scaling to be more balanced than "pure" str or dex. At C-C, the zweihander is a quality weapon in that it benefits just as much from dex as str.
It isn't, in my definition. Even at +15, the scaling is C/D, not C/C.
Zweihander +15 325/0/0/0 C/D/-/- Taken from the Wiki.
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Its still quality.
Its freaking worthless as a "pure" weapon. The msgs/mura will deal just as much damage unless you have both.
Its freaking worthless as a "pure" weapon. The msgs/mura will deal just as much damage unless you have both.
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Estoc is pretty nice on a Q build.
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Broadsword
User1- Abyss Dweller
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Re: Good weapon for a quality build?
My Dad Once wrote:If you copy everyone else, you won't get anywhere in life.
Point is, I already included that.
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Dibsville, is your signature, like, an infinitely inflating repository for anime .gif's or something? I swear every time I look at it, a new .gif appears.
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All three are from the same anime.
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The mura is a dex weapon, but the 28 str requirement means its functionally a quality weapon. Its really good too, if you can get the hang of its swing speed.
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Dibsville wrote:Broadsword
is best sword
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Mura is a quality weapon, not DEX...
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Notice sig.
Need more Broadsword tributes in sigs.
Need more Broadsword tributes in sigs.
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because e-a is quality? I think not. As is said, the 28 str requirement makes it function like one, but all its scaling is in dex.
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I prefer Longsword...
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The sunlight straight sword is slightly better for the same moveset. Though an estoc is good for a dex/str.Dibsville wrote:I prefer Longsword...
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Both Sunlight Straightsword and Estoc are one of the slowest swinging weapons of their weapon class.Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:The sunlight straight sword is slightly better for the same moveset. Though an estoc is good for a dex/str.Dibsville wrote:I prefer Longsword...
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The whole Murakumo is/isn't a quality weapon is this dumb argument that I keep seeing pop up and I don't understand why people care.
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I wasn't arguing, merely correcting.
There is the chance that refering to the mura as quality would mislead someone into building for it wrong. There is a benifit to a 40/40 build using a zweih as a main. There really isn't for the mura. better 28/40 and pumping something else.
There is the chance that refering to the mura as quality would mislead someone into building for it wrong. There is a benifit to a 40/40 build using a zweih as a main. There really isn't for the mura. better 28/40 and pumping something else.
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