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    Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by morte on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:32 pm

    I've heard that there are some weapons that make good quality build weapons, better than pure strength or dexterity. Anybody know some, cuz mugenmonkey seems to think that there is little better than a pure strength or dexterity melee weapon.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by User1 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:33 pm

    Sunlight Straight Sword
    Longsword
    Claymore
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    Zweihander (not true quality, but still good)
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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by morte on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:40 pm

    Really? Mugenmonkey says that the uchi is superior to all 1h weapons, is the calculator off? I really want to do a 1h quality build, but I guess it's looking like it's going to be 2h. Meh, had to happen sometime.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by User1 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:43 pm

    Look at the scaling in-game. C/C for DEX and STR, therefore logically making them better for quality builds.
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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by LunarFog on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:46 pm

    Spears. That is all

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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Fry1156 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:50 pm

    I like the washing pole think its a d/c scaling.
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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:53 pm

    How is the zweihander not a true quality weapon? just because its slow and heavy doesn't mean its not a quality weapon. Quality is a term thats carried over from des. Its an upgrade path, that alters the scaling to be more balanced than "pure" str or dex. At C-C, the zweihander is a quality weapon in that it benefits just as much from dex as str.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Myztyrio on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:54 pm

    Most Halberds.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by User1 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:58 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:How is the zweihander not a true quality weapon? just because its slow and heavy doesn't mean its not a quality weapon. Quality is a term thats carried over from des. Its an upgrade path, that alters the scaling to be more balanced than "pure" str or dex. At C-C, the zweihander is a quality weapon in that it benefits just as much from dex as str.

    It isn't, in my definition. Even at +15, the scaling is C/D, not C/C.

    Zweihander +15 325/0/0/0 C/D/-/- Taken from the Wiki.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:09 pm

    Its still quality.
    Its freaking worthless as a "pure" weapon. The msgs/mura will deal just as much damage unless you have both.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:12 pm

    Estoc is pretty nice on a Q build.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:14 pm

    Broadsword


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by User1 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:15 pm

    My Dad Once wrote:If you copy everyone else, you won't get anywhere in life.

    Point is, I already included that.
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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:16 pm

    Dibsville, is your signature, like, an infinitely inflating repository for anime .gif's or something? I swear every time I look at it, a new .gif appears.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:17 pm

    All three are from the same anime. winking


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:21 pm

    The mura is a dex weapon, but the 28 str requirement means its functionally a quality weapon. Its really good too, if you can get the hang of its swing speed.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Ashran on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:21 pm

    Dibsville wrote:Broadsword

    is best sword


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:22 pm

    Mura is a quality weapon, not DEX...


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by User1 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:23 pm

    Notice sig.

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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:24 pm

    because e-a is quality? I think not. As is said, the 28 str requirement makes it function like one, but all its scaling is in dex.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:24 pm

    I prefer Longsword...


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:29 pm

    Dibsville wrote:I prefer Longsword...
    The sunlight straight sword is slightly better for the same moveset. Though an estoc is good for a dex/str.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:30 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:I prefer Longsword...
    The sunlight straight sword is slightly better for the same moveset. Though an estoc is good for a dex/str.
    Both Sunlight Straightsword and Estoc are one of the slowest swinging weapons of their weapon class.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:23 pm

    The whole Murakumo is/isn't a quality weapon is this dumb argument that I keep seeing pop up and I don't understand why people care.


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    Re: Good weapon for a quality build?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:39 pm

    I wasn't arguing, merely correcting.

    There is the chance that refering to the mura as quality would mislead someone into building for it wrong. There is a benifit to a 40/40 build using a zweih as a main. There really isn't for the mura. better 28/40 and pumping something else.


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