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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by DemonOfFate on Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:53 pm

    Ah than, i supposed i misread something. I was under the impression that this would be a fight club of sorts and that there were rules that included no havels ring. Never mind then, and i'll have my build up in a day or two.


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Jansports on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:24 am

    You realize by allowing everything before Sen's you are allowing the possibility of a full Chaos Weapon. (Suicide for the ember, farm rockwurms for chunks trade ascended pyro for Slab)

    Which I don't think you want based on the idea you had of getting "back to basics"
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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Automancer on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:49 am

    ^ We're going to use un-upgraded weapons.


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by testspecimen85 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:17 am

    Automancer wrote:^ We're going to use un-upgraded weapons.

    Will armor upgrades be allowed? Wolf ring? What about family masks (They're easy to get before Sen's: summon Leeroy, kill the Pinwheel boss, and if you didn't get the drop you wanted, just roll on through the Tomb of Giants like a boss and farm the Pinwheels by the boss fog gate)? Are we using magic/pyro/faith, or is it just weapons? Bellowing Dragoncrest ring?

    I'm very interested in this "No Build" idea, but I think the rules need to be a bit more fleshed out before I start working on a build. Whenever that happens, count me in.
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    I'll leave you all with a question: wouldn't a true "No Build" event just be for unleveled toons that use only starting gear/equipment?
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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Dutchy on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:33 pm

    I am pretty interested in this, here's my build if we are allowed armour other than the starting, if not, I'll just chuck the full Pyro on https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=322145509394467852


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by User1 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:40 pm

    We are allowed any armour and weaponry before Sen's. Yours just skimming that, only just within the boundaries, but acceptable.
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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Dutchy on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:43 pm

    How so? Because you can't upgrade the Gold-hemmed and it is better than any other armour unupgraded?


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by User1 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:44 pm

    Pretty much. It is nearly off limits, but it is, once again, acceptable. If my connection can stay, I want go get to this. I'm fed up of my connection ruining everything.
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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by inksoldier on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:45 pm

    I'd be down for something like this. I'd like it to be as minimalistic as possible. And the lower the SL, the better for me happy Let me know how this works out.


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by divinebeanpole on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:15 pm

    We should gather a list of what is and isn't off limits, I agree that the gold hemmed robes would be OP.


    Leveling
    - lvl 25
    - may only level up VITALITY and ENDURANCE!!!
    - ATTUNEMENT, RESISTANCE, INTELLIGENCE and FAITH must remain untouched!

    Armor and Weaponry
    - unupgraded
    - Any armor or weapon found before Sen's Fortress is acceptable *
    * equipment that cannot be upgraded is off limits, i.e. Gold Hemmed Robes, ...

    Ring1- Ring of Favor and Protection
    - found this early by killing Lautrec
    Ring2- any other ring available before Sen'sFortress

    Magic
    - as INT and FTH will not be touched, those who want to use spells must choose a starting character with enough stats to cover for your spells. Example: only those who choose Cleric can use Magic Barrier with their preloaded 14 FTH, just as those who choose Sorcerer could use Great Magic Weapon or Strong Magic Shield

    Items
    - Firebombs, throwing knives, and resins all gain relevance with this low SL, so stock up!




    ^^^ill revise and copy and paste this to the first post. What else should I include? How flexible should we be with dex and str?



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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Automancer on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:31 pm

    ^ I think you should change that you can also level up Str and Dex. At least to the required levels. But not going above SL25.


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by divinebeanpole on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:34 pm

    Fixed my build for the non boosting of the magics

    http://m.mugenmonkey.com/?c=291149185866485074

    Crap, replace that fire surge with Hidden Weapon, my favorite weapon buff.


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Myztyrio on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:08 pm

    You're forced to use RoFaP?


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by DemonOfFate on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:45 pm

    Well, since stone armor is now off limits, this is the best tank style i could come up with. http://mmdks.com/1wt2


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by inksoldier on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:58 pm

    what about other rings like red tearstone?


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:03 pm

    Witches Set would surely be allowed considering you can do NLR pre-sens.


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by divinebeanpole on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:02 pm

    Inksoldier and Amos, yes and yes! Highly encouraged!


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by testspecimen85 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:12 pm

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:Witches Set would surely be allowed considering you can do NLR pre-sens.

    Wait, what? I know you can get the Covenant of Artorias by killing Sief, but don't you need the Lord Vessel to un-flood New Londo? Is there a way to get the Witches' Set without summoning Beatrice and subsequently killing the Four Kings?

    Seriously dude, you're blowing my freakin' mind right now.

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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Elifia on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:17 pm

    testspecimen85 wrote:
    TehInfamousAmos wrote:Witches Set would surely be allowed considering you can do NLR pre-sens.

    Wait, what? I know you can get the Covenant of Artorias by killing Sief, but don't you need the Lord Vessel to un-flood New Londo? Is there a way to get the Witches' Set without summoning Beatrice and subsequently killing the Four Kings?

    Seriously dude, you're blowing my freakin' mind right now.


    You can get the key without the lordvessel if you kill the guy in the red robes (Ingwald?).

    Anyway, would this build be allowed? It still has the fast roll at 78 poise silly Too bad your only form of attacks will probably be backstabs and ripostes though...


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by testspecimen85 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:38 pm

    Elifia wrote:
    testspecimen85 wrote:
    TehInfamousAmos wrote:Witches Set would surely be allowed considering you can do NLR pre-sens.

    Wait, what? I know you can get the Covenant of Artorias by killing Sief, but don't you need the Lord Vessel to un-flood New Londo? Is there a way to get the Witches' Set without summoning Beatrice and subsequently killing the Four Kings?

    Seriously dude, you're blowing my freakin' mind right now.


    You can get the key without the lordvessel if you kill the guy in the red robes (Ingwald?).

    Anyway, would this build be allowed? It still has the fast roll at 78 poise silly Too bad your only form of attacks will probably be backstabs and ripostes though...

    Lol, I feel dumb now. If he's carrying the key, he should drop it when killed. Can't believe I've played DkS this long and not even thought of that. Thanks.

    Btw, if you kill me using a Ghost Blade I'll give you a dollar.
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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by divinebeanpole on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:00 pm

    A little strange, but it works I suppose. You have the poise, but you sacrifice many other things so I got no beef


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by trzzy on Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:14 am

    So the family masks are off limits? and could we use stuff found in sens fortress?


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Dutchy on Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:31 am

    Yeah, i'm with the Dex and Str. With my Pyro build, the whip is just out of reach :/


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by Automancer on Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:35 am

    trzzy wrote:So the family masks are off limits? and could we use stuff found in sens fortress?

    Anything before Sens.


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    Re: NO build PVP!

    Post by divinebeanpole on Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:12 am

    And you also would not be able to get into Sens if you leave gargoyles alive.

    I didn't get to go on yesterday as I said I would, but today will be different. Anyone getting on this today have any cool fight location suggestions?


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