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    Post by Thymos Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:44 pm

    I was playing dark souls today, when I suddenly noticed something peculiar. As the title says, a Lloyd's Talisman showed up right next to the well in Firelink Shrine.
    Now, I know for a fact that I haven't bought any on this character, and you get 4 of them in a chest. Now I have 5, so I cannot have dropped any of the ones I already had. Also, it cannot have been a phantom as far as I know, as phantoms can't even be summoned there.
    Have any of you experienced anything like this? I've done tons of playthroughs, and this has never happened to me before.
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    Post by Hman105 Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:09 pm

    Something similar happened to me too, except it was in New Londo, and that it was a single throwing knife. It's strange.
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    Post by Odinbear Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:06 am

    Yes.
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    Post by alchemydesign Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:10 am

    I think sometimes if you are online items you drop like sift through other's playthroughs
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    Post by Pilgrim34 Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:06 am

    Yeah, it's either a glitch or perhaps if you're quick enough you can discover the dropped item before it becomes a vagrant?
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    Post by Xaelai Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:04 am

    I think it is a positional error.

    I've seen OSS messages floating in the air that had absolutely no sense, such as near the Undead Burg bonfire, hovering in midair and they would say things like "try cutting off the tail" or "beware of magic" or "illusory wall ahead". Some of these had pretty high ratings (the illusory wall one had a rating of 150+!), so surely they weren't just some random joker playing around.

    I think sometimes the game loads the incorrect position for these messages and displays them in weird places that you'd never be able to drop a sign normally.

    Well, if that can happen to signs, maybe it can happen to dropped items too?
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    Post by Djem Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:06 am

    Pilgrim34 wrote:Yeah, it's either a glitch or perhaps if you're quick enough you can discover the dropped item before it becomes a vagrant?

    This makes sense. Maybe the vagrant system is a little bugged.
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    Post by Thymos Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:47 pm

    Xaelai wrote:I think it is a positional error.

    I've seen OSS messages floating in the air that had absolutely no sense, such as near the Undead Burg bonfire, hovering in midair and they would say things like "try cutting off the tail" or "beware of magic" or "illusory wall ahead". Some of these had pretty high ratings (the illusory wall one had a rating of 150+!), so surely they weren't just some random joker playing around.

    I think sometimes the game loads the incorrect position for these messages and displays them in weird places that you'd never be able to drop a sign normally.

    Well, if that can happen to signs, maybe it can happen to dropped items too?
    Well, in that case, where did it come from? I didn't buy one and the only other way of getting one is in a chest which I had already looted
    Pilgrim34 wrote:Yeah, it's either a glitch or perhaps if you're quick enough you can discover the dropped item before it becomes a vagrant?
    This makes some sense, but still.. I don't think vagrants can even drop lloyd's talismans
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    Post by Djem Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:10 pm

    Vagrant's don't drop talismans. But vagrants themselves are created either when someone drops items on the ground and doesn't pick them up, or when they die and don't take their souls back. Someone might've droppped a Lloyd's Talisman in their own world, which would cause a vagrant in yours. And it got bugged and showed up in your world.

    But still, as far as I know vagrants can't even appear in Firelink Shrine?.. Curious, but maybe that is actually why the bug happened.
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    Post by Thymos Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm

    Djem wrote:Vagrant's don't drop talismans. But vagrants themselves are created either when someone drops items on the ground and doesn't pick them up, or when they die and don't take their souls back. Someone might've droppped a Lloyd's Talisman in their own world, which would cause a vagrant in yours. And it got bugged and showed up in your world.

    But still, as far as I know vagrants can't even appear in Firelink Shrine?.. Curious, but maybe that is actually why the bug happened.
    Yeah, maybe
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    Post by Shindori Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:58 pm

    It hppened to me once in Oolacile township. I came back from invading someone, and a Lloyd's talisman was just sitting there at the bonfire. It was.. pretty peculiar. but hey, more talismans to peg people with, right?

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