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    Post by xRamenatorx Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:15 pm

    Im working on a pyro dex build and have two different versions

    Both versions wear rofap ring, crown of dusk, and use a rapier/chaos blade in right hand and pyro/shield in left

    Version 1: has 37 poise, 1787 hp and uses the dwgr (can also use wolfs). This versions shield is the dark hand

    Version 2: has 58 poise, 1800 hp, and must use the wolf ring in order to maintain poise. This versions shield is a crest shield (i can also put on moms mask for like 1980hp)

    Im fine with the poise values of both. My main concern is the shield i get with version two- more stability plus setup parries (version 2 actually has less endurance. Its 42 endurance compared to 46). Also dont forget that rapier can attack behind shields.

    I geuss it comes down to fast roll/good shield vs flip/decent shield
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    Post by User1 Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:21 pm

    Dark Hand is terrible for physical attacks. It's stability is laughable. Small Leather Shield weighs the same. and has overall use much more efficiently.

    I suggest the second choice though. Ninja Flip is not needed, IMO, but it comes down to personal perference.
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    Post by Solaire_of_Astora Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:31 pm

    This is my dex/pyro ganker hunter build

    http://mmdks.com/1vm6

    I know max casting speed is 45, I accidentally put an extra point into dex.

    I don't think you need 58 poise with a katana as you shouldn't be getting hit much. With my build, my great combustions do ~500 damage. It's a really easy way to *** up gankers. If I were you, I'd choose Version 1, with the bellowing dragoncrest ring, but that's assuming you'll be fighting in the forest like I do.

    Or, if you don't want to swap out the DWGR, I would drop the rapier and get a heater shield. Even better, you could switch up the armor, while still being above 31 poise, and keep the rapier. Then, you could upgrade the shield.

    Good luck with the build anyhow.
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    Post by xRamenatorx Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:43 pm

    Yea dragoncrest ring plus crown of dusk would do massive damage (each of those adds about 100dmg to my black flame so 540dmg and 740 on criticals). Though i want atleast 36 poise for people who one hand greatswords.

    Also i dont usually get hit anyways but this builds for facing extremely good players which is why i was concerned about invincibility frames, poise (for ppl who 2h greatswords) and shield type

    I probably will use the leather shield instead of darkhand

    Either way i think i will just make the first options stats and test out both. The stats are the same except endurance and hp. The first option has more endurance and slightly less hp so option 2 will work on it; ill just be losing about 60 or 70pts of hp.

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