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    Post by Enzakiel on Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:05 am

    Hey what's up!

    I decided to join these boards to ask some questions about PvP.

    I've started playing Dark Souls a few months ago and I have a SL97 Thief that I use. I currently am in the forest covenant and keep getting my *** handled. I don't think I won a single duel in all my playing time.

    I have researched forums, wikis and guides all over the internet but the information is so diverse, also taking in the fact that there have been numerous patches and the old builds might not work anymore.

    I am looking for a dex build, something rather ''cookie-cutter''. I'm not looking for anything fancy but just something that I can enjoy PvPing with.

    At the moment my character looks like so :

    Thief SL97

    VIT / END / DEX at 40, rest is base

    I'm using Iaito +10 as my main weapon. Was using Hollow Thief Armor Set previously but recently switched to Easterner Set (Probably not the best I agree), and the Mask of Mother. I am also using Silver Knight Shield, Ring of Favor and Usually Wolf Ring or Havel Ring if using Heavy armor.

    I'm not using any magic at all, no pyromancy hand no nothing. I wanted to play as a thief/assassin and never got around to checking out the spells and whatnot.

    If someone could point me in the right direction I would be really happy.


    Thank you all!
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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by Pilgrim34 on Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:08 am

    Is your main goal to PvP in the forest? If so then you will benefit from going up a few more levels to between 120-130.

    Maybe you could create a build on the character planner, save it and then post a link for us to look at so that we can offer advice!

    https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/


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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by Enzakiel on Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:44 am

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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:02 am

    http://mmdks.com/1vkn since you started with a thief this is waht you should definitely do stat wise. equipment and rings is all yours to decide but i like to have 76+poise with fast roll
    and it's really easy to achieve with those light dex weapons...if you go heavier weapon loadout you have to part with the mothersmask though. f.e.: http://mmdks.com/1vkr
    whatever you do get those 16str, you'll thank me after trying weapons like silverknight spear, chaos blade, lifehunt scythe and flamberge!

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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by Enzakiel on Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:54 am

    Any other input? Basically I'd like to know why I'm using an item if you ask me to use it. The reasoning behind it.


    All I can see are various pieces of armor mashed together and while I certainly believe it is a great suggestion I have still no idea of what I'm doing.


    Thanks!

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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by abmoner on Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:23 pm

    Upgrade that laito +10 to +15
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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:14 pm

    The most important part of your build is figuring out what weapon to use. And, of course, your weapons should be at +15 or +5. Once you figure out your weapon, then you can decide on the stats.

    Play around with weapons. Ask yourself about the moveset, type of playing needed (fast and furious or slow/methodical or in between). Then, of course damage output. Don't look at solely the AR. +15 will almost always outperform any other upgrade with 40 Dex (or Str if you have a Str weapon).

    Once you have a few weapons that you like, then design your build around that.

    Here are some good threads to help you get started:
    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t14581-reim-s-guide-to-making-builds
    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t13918-the-build-doctor
    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t19131-best-dex-weapon-on-dks?highlight=weapon%2A


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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by Enzakiel on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:43 am

    Thank you.

    Gear is the main issue for me, stats wise and weapon wise I have it pretty figured out.
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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:21 am

    Here's another link to help with armor. Instead of selecting based on one parameter (physical defense, poise, etc) that mugenmonkey does, it allows you to input 2 parameters. http://www.raymondhill.net/darksouls/darksouls-armor-calc.php


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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by Enzakiel on Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:36 am

    Bleh I think I messed my build up.


    Was trying to get >25% Equip Burden on my Toon and was playing around in the level up section to see how much endurance would affect my equip load, to get fast roll.. Well I didn't really want to pump it that much but now I ended up with 57 end and 45 vitality. I don't think pumping end that high was beneficial.


    Stupidly enough, I cannot use mask of the mother. It puts me 0,1 too high for the fast roll. I have to use the thief hood..Oh my!
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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:35 am

    endurance is never wasted, your soullevel just may be too high now to get good constant action...


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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by Enzakiel on Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:56 am

    I'm SL 120.
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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:40 am

    At 45 vit the difference between wearing mom mask is 1879 vs 1708. Not the end of the world if you can't squeeze it in.

    *Edit* With rfap on.

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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by Enzakiel on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:33 pm

    Yeah but still..

    The extra endurance was just so I could use my prefered armor pieces for style and still fast roll. it wasnt really needed.

    I couldve pumped health and hit 2k life with the mask instead.
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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:06 pm

    There's still plenty of nasty things you can do with 58end. The insane poise (or versatility of weapons you can carry) + fast roll will get you wins. It's not like your hp is low (45 + rofap) is decent.

    I think you should give it go. If nothing else it will teach you the strengths and limitations of this type of build and will be a stepping stone for further success. Knowledge is power.

    If not, then at least you have excuse to make a new char. silly

    Good luck and happy hunting.
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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:58 pm

    hit around 1500 hp and your build is viable IMO!


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    Re: Lost in the sea of information

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:13 am

    xenon_nobelium wrote:hit around 1500 hp and your build is viable IMO!
    That's my goal with builds too. That means 50 vitality. Or, slap some FaP and drop down to 37.


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