ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Share
    avatar
    Noob-of-Artorias
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1075
    Reputation : 63
    Join date : 2012-04-29
    Age : 26
    Location : San Diego

    ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:59 am



    Dude brings up a bunch of good points...discuss?


    _________________
    Gamertag: Bayou Bulldog

    PSN ID: Fatal-Impulse101

    avatar
    WhatDoesThePendantDo?
    Duke's Archivist
    Duke's Archivist

    Posts : 11501
    Reputation : 327
    Join date : 2012-04-18
    Age : 28
    Location : WPB, Florida

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:16 am

    I didn't hear that about bosses showing up in the middle of the level and surprising the player. That sounds really cool if that is an actual feature we get.

    avatar
    Slarg232
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1351
    Reputation : 51
    Join date : 2012-08-07
    Age : 26

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Slarg232 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:18 am

    Took him long enough XD

    Been waiting for this since it came out.


    _________________


    avatar
    vegan666
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 129
    Reputation : 14
    Join date : 2012-08-15
    Location : Yokohama, Japan

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by vegan666 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:21 am

    Great, thanks for sharing! Was looking forward to this too.


    _________________
    Check out my Dark Souls related black metal/post rock project - www.facebook.com/abysswalker666

    avatar
    tofucactaur
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 283
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2012-07-04
    Location : melbourne

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by tofucactaur on Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:55 am

    he points out that the weapon equipped could be directly linked to rolling speed, as opposed to an overall equip load. Personally I think that would be a step backwards, the equip load system allowed for greater customization, ie a strength character could tank with a huge weapon and go for insane armor load, or they could wear minimum armor and quick roll with a large weapon. I prefer the current system, but we don't know enough yet I guess. He also makes a comment on the idea of a main character, and claims that it may be a place holder because of something to do with the motion capture process. I feel better about the concerns regarding the possibility of playing only a a predetermined main character, From just released some photos of characters in different armour. Personally I think that we may actually play as the 'Main' character at the start of the game as a sort of large tutorial to show newcomers game mechanics and set up the plot. I don't really know why I think this, just because this character seems a little more fleshed out, and now there is a gameplay demo featuring him+ the devs said they wanted to make the start of the game easier to introduce newcomers. Just a hunch. Anyway, I think the game could be rad, I am hoping it will be. Good commentary as always from ENB he is a champion


    _________________
    Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward
    ||||||||||||| e a t y o u r e n e m i e s |||||||||||||
    avatar
    nsane32
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1886
    Reputation : 27
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 27
    Location : Lordran

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by nsane32 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:05 am

    glad to see hes actually interested in the game again as before he wasnt do to that fact that the producer changed


    _________________
    Prepare To Die

    I will protect my lord till the very end

    Au ou Pasnic Morarta

    Spoiler:

    GT:nsane32
    Steam:nsane32

    User1
    Abyss Dweller
    Abyss Dweller

    Posts : 9912
    Reputation : 106
    Join date : 2012-12-18

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by User1 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:07 am

    Nice speculation. It certainly opened up possibilities I hadn't considered.
    avatar
    Ashran
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 673
    Reputation : 44
    Join date : 2013-01-07
    Age : 25
    Location : Sunlight Shrine

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Ashran on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:13 am

    Great vid as always, this guy deserve much respect.


    _________________

    “There is real beauty in Dark Souls. It reveals that life is more suffering than pleasure, more failure than success, and that even the momentary relief of achievement is wiped away by new levels of difficulty. It is also a testament to our persistence in the face of that suffering. “
    avatar
    Halicarnassis
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 718
    Reputation : 15
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 42
    Location : Dark EngeLando!

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Halicarnassis on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:54 am

    @tof: mate I'm giving you a +1 there. I agree with everything you have said and was so about to voice my opinion on playing as a set character to start off with but you beat me to it lol!

    I think ENB did a great job in the short amount of time he dedicated to the preview and let wait for his 2 hour frame by frame analysis



    Just want to say on rolling speeds and carrying different weapons:

    Surely carrying a massive 2-handed Zwei is going to be more difficult to roll with then carrying a shortsword/longsword combo? Think about the tuck and roll action and try not to cut your own head off with a Zwei and I think one can imagine the difficulty right there and the care to roll a little slower..


    _________________
    DMB vs SLB.. results here -  bit.ly 153iRJV
    PSN ID: Halicarnassis Twitter: @Halicarnassis
    Tweets by @Halicarnassis

    LunarFog wrote:"The Moon Pit" seems like someplace naughty I would go to see buff men swinging their junk.
    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:13 am

    What people aren't considering is that the system may only count the weight of what is in hand. So it isn't that the two handed sword made him roll differently, but while it was in his main hand the total weight might have made him roll slower. Thus the total weight would be what you have currently out and switching weapons would change your total weight.

    This is a possibility no one seems to be mentioning.
    avatar
    Halicarnassis
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 718
    Reputation : 15
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 42
    Location : Dark EngeLando!

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Halicarnassis on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:24 am

    Tolvo you raise a very good point. I shall conceed to agree with you there. This would be far more realistic.

    I am hoping that the carrying capacity like in Demon Souls is in existance. Carry a BB full of items is just silly.


    _________________
    DMB vs SLB.. results here -  bit.ly 153iRJV
    PSN ID: Halicarnassis Twitter: @Halicarnassis
    Tweets by @Halicarnassis

    LunarFog wrote:"The Moon Pit" seems like someplace naughty I would go to see buff men swinging their junk.
    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:30 am

    I'm unsure of how I will feel about that, often the system in Demon's Souls could be very tedious especially if you tried to pick something up without knowing what it was to find out it was a heavy object. Suddenly you had to remove things from your inventory or lose out on said item forever.

    I understand the limitations in regards to weapon swapping, since it allows the player to carry an infinite amount of weapons for any situation.

    It's really a tough call and reminds me of the debate between games which let you carry many guns or only limit you to two. Maybe some sort of Balance is needed, like I've always been find with the idea of a drop box or something, when you pick an item up you can send it to your stockpile/bottomlessbox/whatever so you don't miss out on important items which you just can't carry due to weight.
    avatar
    Halicarnassis
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 718
    Reputation : 15
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 42
    Location : Dark EngeLando!

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Halicarnassis on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:36 am

    I get that... but Demons Souls was a mechanic whereby you had to return to a central place to access your BB and in DkS its at every bonfire and, dont the items you leave on the ground remain there until you die regardless of how many times you rest at the bonfire? I'm pretty sure thats the case. So then one run back to the bonfire, drop items, go fetch new amazing item and return to bonfire to tool up etc...


    _________________
    DMB vs SLB.. results here -  bit.ly 153iRJV
    PSN ID: Halicarnassis Twitter: @Halicarnassis
    Tweets by @Halicarnassis

    LunarFog wrote:"The Moon Pit" seems like someplace naughty I would go to see buff men swinging their junk.
    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:38 am

    If you die and come back they were gone, or at least they were gone for me. Same for if you went back to the archstone and left then came back, they were gone for me. I lost out on Brushwood armor and various things due to that since I was wandering around and not using the Wiki, so I lost out on various things and had to make a new character to get them.
    avatar
    eminusx
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 379
    Reputation : 24
    Join date : 2012-03-07
    Age : 39
    Location : Untidied Kingdom

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by eminusx on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:58 pm

    I played DkS first, then picked up a PS3 for DeS, and the fetch/carry format for DeS was one of the things i disliked about it, it just felt like a grind and I ended up having to abandon a load of stuff that I wouldve preferred to hold on to and experiment with, so i'd personally stick with a BB.

    You can only use one piece of armour at once anyway so why not just have it lying around in your inventory. I understand why it might seem silly having tonnes of equipment on you that you can swap around, but then, in reality you'd only be able to carry one set of armour and one or two weapons which would really kill a lot of the enjoyment of having a character customisation. .

    . . so BB all the way says I.


    _________________
    XBL: eminusx
    PSN: eminusx78

    dont open the gates, who the hell needs a wooden horse that size!!!


    Last Be-ta, I gave you my souls, but the very next game, you took them away!!
    This year, to save me from fear, im levelling my Zwei-hander!! WHAM!!!
    avatar
    tofucactaur
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 283
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2012-07-04
    Location : melbourne

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by tofucactaur on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:10 pm

    @Hali
    haha you are right about the rolling speeds, but i am not into having everything necessarily true to life. but yes, it is a little crazy rolling around with a zwei! i do like the idea of only the equipment you are using at the time dictating your overall speed, as opposed to your backup/2nd weapon being included.... i dunno, as long as it is balanced, it will be rad.
    with regards to the starting character, yeah, at first i was worried about there being no character creation, but more and more i think evidence is pointing towards a sort of prologue to the game featuring a strong main hero


    _________________
    Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward
    ||||||||||||| e a t y o u r e n e m i e s |||||||||||||
    avatar
    Argetlam350
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 547
    Reputation : 34
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 23
    Location : Montana

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Argetlam350 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:34 am

    Okay at 12:54, am I the only one that thinks that armor on the enemy the player is fighting looks very similar to the Paladin set that Leeroy wears? It's hard to see in ENB's video but in the gameplay it is much more clearer. Besides the different color and chest emblem it looks very similar with the helm and shoulders looks.


    _________________




    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:41 am

    http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

    Here is a screenshot of them.
    avatar
    Argetlam350
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 547
    Reputation : 34
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 23
    Location : Montana

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Argetlam350 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:43 am

    Hmm better. I still say the helmet looks very similar to the paladin set but now seeing the rest of the chest piece I'm not sure. Oh well thanks for the better image.


    _________________





    User1
    Abyss Dweller
    Abyss Dweller

    Posts : 9912
    Reputation : 106
    Join date : 2012-12-18

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by User1 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:46 am

    Yeah, the helmet bears a huge similarity. I can see where you were coming from now.
    avatar
    Argetlam350
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 547
    Reputation : 34
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 23
    Location : Montana

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Argetlam350 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:13 am

    Yeah, but even if it's just the helment I'm wondering if the Church of Thorolund or the Way of White will have a role to play. Could be an interesting side story.


    _________________




    avatar
    hey its andres
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1044
    Reputation : 32
    Join date : 2012-12-02
    Age : 23
    Location : Darkroot Garden, California

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by hey its andres on Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:56 am

    Please people, use your brains. ENB is good and all, but can we stop treating him like he's god or something? Why was character customization even a debatable issue? I'm sorry I just hate when people blindly accept things just because X says so. *end rant* Sun


    _________________
    XBL: hey its andres
    And now on Youtube!  
    avatar
    tofucactaur
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 283
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2012-07-04
    Location : melbourne

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by tofucactaur on Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:02 am

    i don't think people automatically assume anything, and i don't think anyone thinks that ENB is a god, but honestly, his videos are some of the best, his speculation is interesting and generally based on his rather extensive knowledge of lore, which is a result of his own research. i personally feel like he is one of the biggest contributors to the souls community and has been since the games release. with regards to the armor looking like leeroys, i def think the helmet has similarities. it is one of my fave pieces of armor in the game.


    _________________
    Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward
    ||||||||||||| e a t y o u r e n e m i e s |||||||||||||
    avatar
    hey its andres
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1044
    Reputation : 32
    Join date : 2012-12-02
    Age : 23
    Location : Darkroot Garden, California

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by hey its andres on Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:15 pm

    I realize that some people are really good and watch his videos with and attitude of curiosity, not taking everything for granted. The main problem is when get into a lore-war with someone, and the they defend themselves by saying "Yeah but ENB said-!" after that I stop listening. I just really urge people to use their own imagination sometimes. Dark Souls lore gets boring when we only get one perspective.


    _________________
    XBL: hey its andres
    And now on Youtube!  
    avatar
    tofucactaur
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 283
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2012-07-04
    Location : melbourne

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by tofucactaur on Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:01 pm

    yah fair enough, I concede that his point of view is not the be all and end all, which he would certainly agree with. there are def other awsm lore vids out there aswell


    _________________
    Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward
    ||||||||||||| e a t y o u r e n e m i e s |||||||||||||

    Sponsored content

    Re: ENB's Dark Souls 2 Commentary

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:32 am