Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

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    Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:23 am

    so, i got 1 more character slot free and have theese 3 specialised greatsword builds waiting for me...if you'd have to pick 1 which one would it be and why? thx in advance. here are the builds:

    http://mmdks.com/1s74 Moonlight Soldier: weapon combination will make him really hard to fight against. good poise and defenses.

    http://mmdks.com/1pek Abyss Lurker: best greatsword dmg and reach but heavy stat investment leave him with inferior poise and defenses.

    http://mmdks.com/1s6v Obsidian Golem: awesome defenses, high stamina and vit but worst weapon option

    (i'm not changing a thing about theese builds, but feel free to post your variants/builds as long as they are tailored to use A greatsword.)
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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by LunarFog on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:17 am

    ...Fast roll isn't everything you know.

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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:57 pm

    so you're saying not fastrolling is not nothing?


    http://mmdks.com/1sb8 take a look at this then!

    what else is there to strife for when you have max scaling, nigh 1500hp and 76poise except fast rolling may i ask? keep in mind they are melee builds, they don't care about magic tricks.
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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by LunarFog on Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:40 pm

    Now THAT is a build.

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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by Seignar on Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:19 pm

    IMO, any build working for Abyss Greatsword needs to use magic. While the weapon itself has the best AR, you're losing points by not using the FAI or INT requirements for magic arsenal.

    You can always include Homing Soulmass (Good magic if you know the tricks) and Emit Force. These are good magics for low investment mages.

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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:31 am

    yes i know, in the planning stages the abyss build had twop and dark bead, one variation 45dex even, but i've shyed away from casting anything in the last months. and i have a lot of other chars that can equip about every magic combination with full potential. investing in ATT and equipping a talisman + cataclyst would cost me HP oder even more def. a lvl120 variant could do some nasty stuff though but i refuse to level further.


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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:12 pm

    ok, started the abyss lurker right now, i think i'll have to delete another char to build the moonlight guy too, he looks too strong! thx for voting!


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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by Myztyrio on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:16 pm

    Abyss Greatsword would be most original/interesting, so my vote goes there.


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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by mugenis4real on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:40 pm

    Why in the Nine Hells do you not have CMW for your Obsidian Greatsword build? Well What is it
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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by Automancer on Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:35 am

    ^Because not everyone is interested in being overpowered and killing enemies in 3 hits. Look Skyward


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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by robsthedon on Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:35 am

    Depends on sl, low level, ogs is great. 60-100 mlgs is the dogs. Abyss never used, so can't really comment, but I suspect the claymore is better.


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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:57 am

    with this build abyss sword does 40 more dmg and has superior reach, so it arguably is better than claymore. now if the claymore didn't have that ridiculous godly moveset...


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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by Dusk Soul on Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:14 am

    Eh the moveset of the Abyss greatsword is iffy, specially the R2's 1hR2 is a slow 360° spin attack, which I guess could be used to counter backstabs; but it is too slow for my tastes. The 2hR2 is the jump attack which again is too slow and gives ample time to dodge. Also at my stats (Str 34, Dex 18, Int 18 Fth 18) my +15 claymore does a little more damage than my +4 Abyss Greatsword, perhaps once I get 40 Str and a +5 sword it will change.
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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by wahwah on Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:54 am

    if ur ganking, the abyss sword is superior \o/
    imo, the easiest GS to win with while ganking lol!
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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by Dusk Soul on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:17 pm

    wahwah wrote:if ur ganking, the abyss sword is superior \o/
    imo, the easiest GS to win with while ganking lol!

    Why? :suspect:

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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by Nybbles on Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:36 pm

    i enjoy the fa'heck out my abyss build, but i never seem to get any satisfaction out of the abyssal greatsword with any build bellow SL130. there are so many other weapons that perform better with fewer stat investments if you are going for a sub 100 build.

    so i would go with either the obsidian greatsword build or the moonlight greatsword build.
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    Re: Specialised Greatsword Build(s) - help me decide

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:39 am

    i have a lot of character that are more balanced and versatile, thus this thread with 3 guys that are supposed to only carry their equip and nothing else.
    the abyss lurker is done since yesterday and i had a blast. i'm very satisfied with the results. i also think that the build would be much stronger at a higher slvl but i also love how the weapon balances the build at lvl100, reach and dmg are ridiculous enough, no need to have high hp, poise and defense values IMO.
    cool story: the very first invasion @ lvl70 after grinding up enough points for my end/vit and just barely wield the sword was a super hi-lvl guy that gave me 600000+ souls...20 lvl ups instantly^^


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