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    Troll Builds

    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:11 am

    This thread is dedicated to the creation, implementation, and discussion of troll builds. Post your builds here and contribute! silly



    I'll start it off with this:



    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=143707526312170340


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:23 am

    Not really my specialty, but here you go - invade Blighttown...

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=168094447590468834

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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:30 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Not really my specialty, but here you go - invade Blighttown...

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=168094447590468834



    Looks nice, that build is oddly similar to what I used at the Blighttown pit event. I'd personally do something like this for Blighttown



    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=349607181589077776


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Automancer on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:47 am

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=466712047185075277

    I use this when i invade the Burg or when i'm trolling my friends in the Moonlight Pit. It's a lot of fun.


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Latitoast on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:51 am

    There's the usual push people off the side of Sen's Funhouse with Force.


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Pilgrim34 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:06 am

    Here's an atrocious low lvl trolling build:

    https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=314543118134973490

    Very good for using at Sen's or Blighttown (or the Parish if you want to be a total d*ck!)


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:08 am

    Automancer wrote:http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=466712047185075277

    I use this when i invade the Burg or when i'm trolling my friends in the Moonlight Pit. It's a lot of fun.
    You should have trolled me
    I had a Bonewheel shield


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by ResIsBestStat on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:12 am

    Dragon King Greataxe is all I need...
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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:14 am

    ResIsBestStat wrote:Dragon King Greataxe is all I need...
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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Jansports on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:39 am

    [quote="Myztyrio"]
    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Not really my specialty, but here you go - invade Blighttown...

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=168094447590468834[/quote]



    Looks nice, that build is oddly similar to what I used at the Blighttown pit event. I'd personally do something like this for Blighttown



    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=349607181589077776

    Gross dude. Make that Large Club normal and 2H you have like 20 less AR and it's not split. Chaos is for weapons that DON'T scale like monsters.
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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Automancer on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:43 am

    Dibsville wrote:
    Automancer wrote:http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=466712047185075277

    I use this when i invade the Burg or when i'm trolling my friends in the Moonlight Pit. It's a lot of fun.
    You should have trolled me
    I had a Bonewheel shield

    I couldn't, lol. I was filming some matches with my friends so no trolling that day when i invaded you. Kappa.


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by WandererReece on Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:02 am

    Unfortunately I can't find the video, but a host killed one of the silver knights and took his place. Then he BS'ed an invader when the invader ran past him. lol!


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:04 am

    WandererReece wrote:Unfortunately I can't find the video, but a host killed one of the silver knights and took his place. Then he BS'ed an invader when the invader ran past him. lol!
    Silver Knight CP is OP


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by User1 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:26 am

    It honestly is.
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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:32 am

    RenegadeCop wrote:It honestly is.
    I CP'd as a Silver Knight on my max level
    It was overkill


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Prohibition on Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:44 pm

    WandererReece wrote:Unfortunately I can't find the video, but a host killed one of the silver knights and took his place. Then he BS'ed an invader when the invader ran past him. lol!
    I believe you are referring to this video.
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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Tarkkus on Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:53 pm

    Basic knight troll ftw silly
    http://mmdks.com/1rvh
    Had to make it look neat with a dagger for riposte winking


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:37 pm

    [quote="Jansports"]
    Myztyrio wrote:
    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Not really my specialty, but here you go - invade Blighttown...

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=168094447590468834[/quote]



    Looks nice, that build is oddly similar to what I used at the Blighttown pit event. I'd personally do something like this for Blighttown



    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=349607181589077776

    Gross dude. Make that Large Club normal and 2H you have like 20 less AR and it's not split. Chaos is for weapons that DON'T scale like monsters.



    It was meant to be Normal.


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    Re: Troll Builds

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    Re: Troll Builds

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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Pilgrim34 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:37 pm

    Here's an updated version of my trolling build- it's truly dreadful- taken it up to lvl 30 since it's much more fun to invade people in Sen's/Blighttown.

    https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=329876405355784945


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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by xxalucard on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:48 am

    I've been trying to come up with a good troll build for sen's fortress, myself. Any advice would be appreciated towards creating an optimal build. I think this thread should be stickied, and we should maybe organize the OP with some basic goals towards defining what kinds of "optimal low-level invading builds" (troll builds) can exist.


    Some things I'd like to discuss / see discussed:

    - "Best SL for maximum potential / fast invading" (so far I think somewhere between 20 - 40 is perfect for sen's fortress, but I have a hard time deciding on a number)

    - "Best spells to use" (factoring in preference and low-level viability.)

    - "Best armor setups" (for hitting the 53 poise & best defense-to-weight ratio)

    - "Best rings to use" (is the wolf ring + Ring of favor and protection ((or havel's + different ring)) the majority choice here?)

    - "Best weapon choice" (is the rapier the majority decision here as well?)

    - "Best spawn locations to choose per area"

    etc

    To get the ball rolling, I think I'll throw in some of my own general thoughts on low-level invading ("trolling," as some people call it):



    - At least 12 dex (for rapier/composite bow)
    - At least 14 str (for the scythe, though this is a personal preference)

    - Black Flame (for easy guard-breaks / damage)
    - Great combustion (or another black flame if on ng+)

    - Dingy robe +10 (amazing elemental defense)
    - Crown of dusk (magical damage boost is too great to ignore IMO)

    - Need to be able to fast roll with 53 poise (so probably wolf ring + favor and protection, though possibly switching rings depending on situation ((like changing from wolf ring to hornet ring if you feel confident you'll get an unsuspecting backstab)))



    I'm not sure where else stat points would be optimal, or how high a level we should shoot for (depending on area). For sen's fortress, I feel that somewhere between SL 20 - SL 40 is optimal, but if anyone has an exact number that would be best to shoot for, that would be appreciated.

    *Edit* -- Something like this is what I'm currently trying as a sen's fortress troll invader. As for spells, I'm a little conflicted. Great chaos fireball is mainly there for the lava pools, which have a lot of utility-- but the spell itself is rather slow when you're under 45 dex.

    **edit again** fixed link, was accidentally linking to someone else's build for a short while



    I understand a lot of people look down on troll builds, but to be honest I feel that it takes planning and skill to create a good one. I've also encountered many good players, whether low level or not. I feel like these builds aren't just aimed at killing a noob that has a sword hilt for a weapon-- they're aimed at being able to invade your favorite places without delay.
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    Re: Troll Builds

    Post by Pilgrim34 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:04 am

    To be quite honest with you, if you're making a build between level 20-30 (optimum levels for trolling), you won't need to worry too much about having loads of poise because if you stay within that level range you are most likely to be matched with players of a similar level, especially at Sen's.

    Occasionally you may come up against a higher-level player but the build certainly isn't geared towards being able to tank hits. 12 strength and 12 dex will be fine, the reason my troll build has a lightning rapier is just as an "insurance" in case I come up against someone significantly stronger than my own character, and also because it's very light

    If you're going to focus on Sen's you could use spells such as fire tempest which is great for ambushes down the narrow corridors. Also, if you are able to decrease vit and strength slightly, you could get 12 faith and have access to healing miracles and force (this is essentially for any troll build, particularly in Sens). With 4 attunement slots you could have 3x pyromancies of your choice plus force, which would make a formidable combination.

    Overall it's up to you but those are my thoughts, have fun creating your build!


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