Pretty concerned about them doing something to Japan too, as I have a few friends over there.
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I'm a bit worried about the whole North Korea thing..
XachAttack- Obsessed
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I live in the U.S, and despite the many reassurances from my parents, I can't help but worry.
Pretty concerned about them doing something to Japan too, as I have a few friends over there.
Pretty concerned about them doing something to Japan too, as I have a few friends over there.
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I can assure that their nuclear weapons program is powered by potatoes. Any nuke they set off will, at best, travel 2 miles from downtown Pyongyang.
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The US could literally vaporize the entire country. They won't of course, for a ton of reasons, but NK doing anything at this point would be like shooting a humvee with a pistol. It might do damage, if you have good aim and a clear shot, but its just going to get you run over.
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I know both of you are correct, they'de get demolished, but the fact that they're deciding to attack us anyway, despite all that, is what's grabbing my attention.
Why would they just throw away all their lives, and money, for something that's going to end bad for them? It doesn't make much sense.
Why would they just throw away all their lives, and money, for something that's going to end bad for them? It doesn't make much sense.
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Well, "they're" not making the decision. The decisions are being made unilaterally by an unprepared, maniacal god-king.
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Well, I guess that makes me feel a bit better lol.
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unfortunately the people of north korea, blinded by propaganda and fictional love that their leader bestows upon them actually think this **** is a good idea.. so stupid
But they won't do anything, they just want to fluff up their feathers a bit and pretend they're big.
But they won't do anything, they just want to fluff up their feathers a bit and pretend they're big.
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North Korea should have been destroyed long ago. This just enforces me belief that their 'king' is just a power mad, greedy indoctrinator, who encourages people to listen to his **** advice. Them thinking a nuclear assault is good makes them deserve being wiped off the face of the earth, if they are honestly stupid enough to believe any of that prick's propaganda.
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Forum Pirate wrote:The US could literally vaporize the entire country. They won't of course, for a ton of reasons, but NK doing anything at this point would be like shooting a humvee with a pistol. It might do damage, if you have good aim and a clear shot, but its just going to get you run over.
this. IF they still decide to attack, they'll just blow up and create another hole in the world, like hiroshima.
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Vice actually has an interesting video on the subject of the North Korean citizens. I would suggest you look into it, it really gives you an outlook as to how the North Korean citizens look at the rest of the world because of the propaganda that is fed to them.
It's... disturbing.
It shows what the most extreme version of xenophobia can really do to a nation when the people cannot contact anyone outside their own nation. It also shows how cruel a ruler can really be.
It's... disturbing.
It shows what the most extreme version of xenophobia can really do to a nation when the people cannot contact anyone outside their own nation. It also shows how cruel a ruler can really be.
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I don't know, they seem like pretty progressive people according to this article.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/kim-jongun-comes-out-in-support-of-***-marriage-im,31821/
I swear if people think I believe this.
Curse you censorship!
http://www.theonion.com/articles/kim-jongun-comes-out-in-support-of-***-marriage-im,31821/
I swear if people think I believe this.
Curse you censorship!
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You put a young leader in charge who has nothing to show for strength and the only thing you get is more threats. That is it threats and keep pissing off nations by violating treaties, which only harms your people. Seriously bomb anywhere and that leader will have the genocide of his entire country on his hands. Because those people will only give up if they're all dead in war.
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I think they are banking on the US playing fair and by the rules because the rest of the world is watching.
So they feel they can spam WoG, chug estus, chain BS etc and the US will stand there and play by the rules of honor.
So they feel they can spam WoG, chug estus, chain BS etc and the US will stand there and play by the rules of honor.
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RenegadeCop wrote:North Korea should have been destroyed long ago. This just enforces me belief that their 'king' is just a power mad, greedy indoctrinator, who encourages people to listen to his **** advice. Them thinking a nuclear assault is good makes them deserve being wiped off the face of the earth, if they are honestly stupid enough to believe any of that prick's propaganda.
I hate North Korea but the people there are not stupid.
If you were brainwashed your entire life to believe one thing with no possible exposure to any other opinion, chances are you'd also be brainwashed.
I probably would be.
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I have a family member who's way up the chain of command at NORAD, and when I had similar concerns he actually laughed and told me this.
"North Korea's missile technology is literally 10 years old. IF Korea were to launch a nuclear strike at the US or any other country for that matter, our interceptor technology would bring it down before it left Korean Airspace."
"Korea attempting to fight the United States would be like a wheelchair bound cripple trying to fight Muhammad Ali."
To put it another way, Korea doesn't have the technology, resources, finances or military to mount an assault on the United States. They might try to fight South Korea again, in which case the United States would likely intervene as we did in the 50's. The big wild card in this equation isn't North Korea it's the Chinese. The Korean War was for all intents and purposes a proxy war between the US and China.
However, times have changed, and China will no longer back a war against the US because of the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Not just Nuclear MAD though, Financial MAD. China's economy is so directly tied to our own that if either country were to suddenly not exist, both countries would fall into chaos.
In short, North Korea is nothing to worry about. The new regime is just flexing it's muscles to try and put on a good show, they're fully aware that launching an attack has only one outcome, and that's with them losing.
"North Korea's missile technology is literally 10 years old. IF Korea were to launch a nuclear strike at the US or any other country for that matter, our interceptor technology would bring it down before it left Korean Airspace."
"Korea attempting to fight the United States would be like a wheelchair bound cripple trying to fight Muhammad Ali."
To put it another way, Korea doesn't have the technology, resources, finances or military to mount an assault on the United States. They might try to fight South Korea again, in which case the United States would likely intervene as we did in the 50's. The big wild card in this equation isn't North Korea it's the Chinese. The Korean War was for all intents and purposes a proxy war between the US and China.
However, times have changed, and China will no longer back a war against the US because of the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Not just Nuclear MAD though, Financial MAD. China's economy is so directly tied to our own that if either country were to suddenly not exist, both countries would fall into chaos.
In short, North Korea is nothing to worry about. The new regime is just flexing it's muscles to try and put on a good show, they're fully aware that launching an attack has only one outcome, and that's with them losing.
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This. The US has to play by the UN rules and the Geneva convention. NK will do no such thing.Maneater_Mildred wrote:I think they are banking on the US playing fair and by the rules because the rest of the world is watching.
So they feel they can spam WoG, chug estus, chain BS etc and the US will stand there and play by the rules of honor.
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Double whammy, love this song and it's appropriate:
Mildred has it, we try to follow the rules. Sometimes we'll just go do our thing anyway. Noob's point is also spot on. Our relationship with China is a, if not the, major factor
Mildred has it, we try to follow the rules. Sometimes we'll just go do our thing anyway. Noob's point is also spot on. Our relationship with China is a, if not the, major factor
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Food aid from EU, US, etc. ---> NK ---> threats, rhetoric and show of force (from displays, localized attacks to nuclear testing) ---> repeat
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Do we not have the tech to send a missile straight to a certain address?
Hey, let me google Kim Jung Un's address right quick...
Meanwhile:
Hey, let me google Kim Jung Un's address right quick...
Meanwhile:
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Well apparently North Korea has stated that they have clearance to launch a nuclear missile. So if I vanish and the US is nuked, I think you guys know what happened.
I fled that place.
I fled that place.
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Indoctrination!? So he's a Reaper! Send in Shepard!!!RenegadeCop wrote:North Korea should have been destroyed long ago. This just enforces me belief that their 'king' is just a power mad, greedy indoctrinator, who encourages people to listen to his **** advice. Them thinking a nuclear assault is good makes them deserve being wiped off the face of the earth, if they are honestly stupid enough to believe any of that prick's propaganda.
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Also remember, the people of North Korea are people. No matter what a government of a people does, genocide should never be thought of as a good thing.
Don't make the same mistake the Republic and Jedi did right after Naga Sadow's invasion of the Galaxy.
Don't make the same mistake the Republic and Jedi did right after Naga Sadow's invasion of the Galaxy.
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I think that's one of the biggest issues when it comes to war with NK. I think we're more than capable of winning but I'm worried about what happens to their people after the war.
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So it looks like the North plans to rebuild the old nuclear plant that was destroyed after being shutdown in 2007 for nuclear products for missiles. Say it may take three months to a year to complete while the South, U.S. and even China express disappointment with this action.
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What the hell is the point of nukes anyway?The US,Russia and China are just the biggest retard countries so far."Haha,we have big missiles that kill lots of innocent people and do extensive,lasting damage to our entire planet every time we use one.That really just means we're in a d**k measuring contest with other countries.Yak yak yak..."
The way I see it,sure,go ahead and get your citizens killed but don't drag the rest of us down with you.No God will end this world,our stupidity will.
Edit:Also....
The way I see it,sure,go ahead and get your citizens killed but don't drag the rest of us down with you.No God will end this world,our stupidity will.
Edit:Also....
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