I was thinking about a Leo ring PW build with it. Any thoughts?
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demon spear PvP effectiveness
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demon spear PvP effectiveness
I see the demon spear has C/C scaling and when fully upgrade with 27 str/dex, I'm wondering if the viability in PvP is any good? I noticed that the R2 attack takes a really long time but looks like it would do some damage.
I was thinking about a Leo ring PW build with it. Any thoughts?
I was thinking about a Leo ring PW build with it. Any thoughts?
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Re: demon spear PvP effectiveness
It's only good at low levels.
With those stats, Dragonslayer Spear is a clear winner.
With those stats, Dragonslayer Spear is a clear winner.
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Seriously, the Dragonslayer Spear is pretty much the best spear to use.
When a weapon is completely viable for use without a shield, it's really good.
When a weapon is completely viable for use without a shield, it's really good.
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Re: demon spear PvP effectiveness
It's slightly longerthan the DSS and has low stat requirements - it is very viable.
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It is viable, but that B Dex scaling is so alluring.
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Re: demon spear PvP effectiveness
http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=433863713320078569
At 27 str and Dex with no Faith investment Demon's Spear is a CLEAR winner in terms of damage over the DSS. It's also longer.
At 27 str and Dex with no Faith investment Demon's Spear is a CLEAR winner in terms of damage over the DSS. It's also longer.
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The DSS has hilarious moments when you launch a guy into the air with the Two-handed strong attack.
It causes as many laughs as watching a new player fight Havel.
It causes as many laughs as watching a new player fight Havel.
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silver knight spear is the best spear IMO the demon spear is good but the r2's arent that good
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I've wanted a bite of that sandwhich forever Billy. just one little taste. please?
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It's old and moldy at this point.
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your mouth cant handle sandwhiches of this magnitude!
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I want a sandwich.
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Re: demon spear PvP effectiveness
Self-proclaimed spear master here!
On my SL 99 build geared toward spears specifically, I choose the demon spear over all others. I'm going to say the demon spear is my favorite spear and one of the top 3 spears in the game.
The damage is great and one of the highest out of any spear.
The length is also one of the longest of any spear.
The R2 attacks are meant for when you get a backstab. The exact time it takes to actually attack is coincidentally the same exact time it takes people get up from a backstab.
Leo ring sadly doesn't go well with the demonspear since it only adds 40% to the physical damage and the demonspear is half lightning damage.
On my SL 99 build geared toward spears specifically, I choose the demon spear over all others. I'm going to say the demon spear is my favorite spear and one of the top 3 spears in the game.
The damage is great and one of the highest out of any spear.
The length is also one of the longest of any spear.
The R2 attacks are meant for when you get a backstab. The exact time it takes to actually attack is coincidentally the same exact time it takes people get up from a backstab.
Leo ring sadly doesn't go well with the demonspear since it only adds 40% to the physical damage and the demonspear is half lightning damage.
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I think you mean Leo ring. Hornets damage bonus includes the Lightning portion of the AR
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Mb. Yea I meant Leo ring.Jansports wrote:I think you mean Leo ring. Hornets damage bonus includes the Lightning portion of the AR
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People are actually recommending the DSS? It weighs a ton more, is shorter, and only gets best damage if you invest in faith as well, the Demon's Spear beats it in every imaginable way. Aside from very high level PvP in the forest, I never see the DSS used anymore, and for a reason.
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http://mmdks.com/1pz3
Accounting for split damage, its easy to see that the DSS is only the strongest with a huge investment. For 30 fewer points into faith, one can use the demon spear or SKS and deal comparable (though lower) damage.
Personally, I'd only use the SKS if I was also using the leo ring, otherwise I'd go demons spear for the range (I actually prefer the MLBH, but thats beside the point)
Accounting for split damage, its easy to see that the DSS is only the strongest with a huge investment. For 30 fewer points into faith, one can use the demon spear or SKS and deal comparable (though lower) damage.
Personally, I'd only use the SKS if I was also using the leo ring, otherwise I'd go demons spear for the range (I actually prefer the MLBH, but thats beside the point)
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Re: demon spear PvP effectiveness
The Demon's Spear is great! I use it as my primary weapon on my sl65 DW build, along with an avelyn.
The range is excellent, and you can do a really nice 1-2 combo with the rolling attack, it usually seems to take a lot of people by surprise. If you're good with it you can totally control the pace and range of a fight and if your opponent pulls away to heal/cast/whatever then you can use a crossbow before moving back in again with the spear!
The range is excellent, and you can do a really nice 1-2 combo with the rolling attack, it usually seems to take a lot of people by surprise. If you're good with it you can totally control the pace and range of a fight and if your opponent pulls away to heal/cast/whatever then you can use a crossbow before moving back in again with the spear!
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Re: demon spear PvP effectiveness
The demon spear is a great weapon at low levels especially with it's absurd reach.
The Dss is a more preffered choice though and it has that R2.
Although at 27 dex and strength and 8 faith, the demon spear does more damage than the Dss.
Demon Spear: 430
Dragonslayer Spear: 368
It would take 33 faith for the Dss to overpower it.
If we were to compare it to the silver knight spear at 27str and dex.
Demon Spear: 430
Silver Spear: 331
Although at 10 humanity the pike is 450 8)
Source: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=257457924760084980
The Dss is a more preffered choice though and it has that R2.
Although at 27 dex and strength and 8 faith, the demon spear does more damage than the Dss.
Demon Spear: 430
Dragonslayer Spear: 368
It would take 33 faith for the Dss to overpower it.
If we were to compare it to the silver knight spear at 27str and dex.
Demon Spear: 430
Silver Spear: 331
Although at 10 humanity the pike is 450 8)
Source: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=257457924760084980
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Re: demon spear PvP effectiveness
Its an even split though, the dss will still do more damage (physical heavy split), as will the demon spear (physical heavy split) and probably the sks (pure physical). Not to mention the pike is shorter than all 3 and the same weight as the sks and demons spear combined.
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