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    PvP is ruined

    Post by lextune on Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:58 pm

    I have been at Dark Souls since the day it dropped. It is without a doubt my favorite game of all time. I have had 1000's of hours of PvE and PvP.

    PvE is what it is, although I do still have fun with some challenge runs, but it was PvP that kept the game fresh.

    In the last several months more and more hackers have crept into the XBOX world though.

    Without exaggeration I can say that for the past week I have had a 75/25 ratio of hackers while hosting in the Burg and the Township. There is just nowhere you can go to get a fair, fun. duel.

    Not much of a topic I realize, but I feel like I have earned a right to bid a formal farewell to random PvP, I hope to see more events organized so that I can try to take part in them, (they always seem to be on Saturday nights though, and I am a weeknight XBOXer, need to spend time with the wife on Sats). Other than formalized events, I can't see the point, (and I have been TRYING! I spent nearly five hours hosting last night).

    I am legitimately sad.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:01 pm

    Yeah hackers are pretty prevalent. I have only had a few though...hosting in township is even bad? ugh! sad


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:01 pm

    Wow dude, that ratio is terrible. Perhaps you might have more luck in the Painted World?

    I definitely hear you about the Burg though, it used to be my favorite spot now I cannot stand it. As for the Township, well, I just never got into the Township scene.

    BTW, do you avoid the hackers you run into over Live, I can't guarantee it'll work, but who knows? Maybe it'll help somewhat.

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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by lextune on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:04 pm

    I would guestimate that I have invaded and/or hosted about 150 fights in the last two days.

    And EASILY more than half of them were hackers. Karmic justice on command, unlimited stamina, frozen HP bars, NinjaFlipping Havels with heavy weapons, on and on and on and on.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:04 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Wow dude, that ratio is terrible. Perhaps you might have more luck in the Painted World?

    I definitely hear you about the Burg though, it used to be my favorite spot now I cannot stand it. As for the Township, well, I just never got into the Township scene.

    BTW, do you avoid the hackers you run into over Live, I can't guarantee it'll work, but who knows? Maybe it'll help somewhat.

    Avoid works well for me.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:05 pm

    lextune wrote:I would guestimate that I have invaded and/or hosted about 150 fights in the last two days.

    And EASILY more than half of them were hackers. Karmic justice on command, unlimited stamina, frozen HP bars, NinjaFlipping Havels with heavy weapons, on and on and on and on.

    I wasn't hacking when I fought you! silly


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by lextune on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:06 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:BTW, do you avoid the hackers you run into over Live, I can't guarantee it'll work, but who knows? Maybe it'll help somewhat.

    I have tried that. I invaded a gank squad a few days ago and know that one of them was hacking, so I "avoided" all three of them through XBL. Not even 10 minutes later I invaded them again, so I don't think it has much of an affect, if any.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by lextune on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:08 pm

    Phoenix Rising wrote:
    lextune wrote:I would guestimate that I have invaded and/or hosted about 150 fights in the last two days.

    And EASILY more than half of them were hackers. Karmic justice on command, unlimited stamina, frozen HP bars, NinjaFlipping Havels with heavy weapons, on and on and on and on.

    I wasn't hacking when I fought you! silly

    Not naming any names, don't remember your name honestly....

    ....but cool....welcome to the 25%. silly


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:13 pm

    lextune wrote:
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    lextune wrote:I would guestimate that I have invaded and/or hosted about 150 fights in the last two days.

    And EASILY more than half of them were hackers. Karmic justice on command, unlimited stamina, frozen HP bars, NinjaFlipping Havels with heavy weapons, on and on and on and on.

    I wasn't hacking when I fought you! silly


    Not naming any names, don't remember your name honestly....

    ....but cool....welcome to the 25%. silly

    YAY!!! Yeah I never have or will hack. I still make builds the old fashioned way...


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:14 pm

    Don't say anything about the painted world! If I lose that then I really am going to make it so no one ever goes there when I'm on! It is the war that really test the xbox players. Show those wimps how it really is done and they break. Remembered we dealt with this before? We survived then and will again!


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:16 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Don't say anything about the painted world! If I lose that then I really am going to make it so no one ever goes there when I'm on! It is the war that really test the xbox players. Show those wimps how it really is done and they break. Remembered we dealt with this before? We survived then and will again!

    Note to self...invade Soris in the Painted World.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:17 pm

    Poor, Soris. Phoenix is truly not the guy you want for an enemy, he's an awesome player. lol!


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    Post by User1 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:17 pm

    And, absolutely wipe the floor with him. happy
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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:22 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Poor, Soris. Phoenix is truly not the guy you want for an enemy, he's an awesome player. lol!

    :oops: I'm not looking for an enemy. I'm only in it for the duels.

    Edit: and at best I'm "streaky" when it comes to PvP. If I'm running bad I absolutely suck!


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:22 pm

    Please I run the place when I'm on! Invaders leave and host have more phantoms and gank squads live to fight. Come at me!

    On the hacker thing try nights? Rarely an d I never joke that I rarely get any hacker modder and such. Only modders who switch to their sets to beat me though that's after a few tries.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:26 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Please I run the place when I'm on! Invaders leave and host have more phantoms and gank squads live to fight. Come at me!

    On the hacker thing try nights? Rarely an d I never joke that I rarely get any hacker modder and such. Only modders who switch to their sets to beat me though that's after a few tries.

    What SL? and +1 for having Musashi in your sig!


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:38 pm

    I stick too sl 100. However it will be until the 19 of this month that I can get on again. It's real life that keeps me off till every other weekend.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

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    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:I stick too sl 100. However it will be until the 19 of this month that I can get on again. It's real life that keeps me off till every other weekend.

    Understandable. I should be on that weekend so we can duel then.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:56 pm

    That is good. Also I'm surprised you know of Musashi. The Earth book on strategy really does apply well in combat with this game.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:59 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:That is good. Also I'm surprised you know of Musashi. The Earth book on strategy really does apply well in combat with this game.

    Haven't read him at all. I am only aware of him through my obsession with katanas IRL.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by The Letter X on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:05 pm

    I'm sorry for your experiences, lextune. Out of my 1000+ duels/invasions last week I ran into only one hacker. :|

    I am always open to dueling you by the way. We can possibly set something up next week.

    @Aim and Soris: I want in on this as well. twisted


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:09 pm

    The Letter X wrote:I'm sorry for your experiences, lextune. Out of my 1000+ duels/invasions last week I ran into only one hacker. :|

    I am always open to dueling you by the way. We can possibly set something up next week.

    @Aim and Soris: I want in on this as well. twisted

    You're sure invited X. I smell mayhem in Ariamis in the near future. twisted


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:12 pm

    X here is an exerpt of the Earth book

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    There is rhythm in everything, however, the rhythm in strategy, in particular, cannot be mastered without a great deal of hard practice.
    Among the rhythms readily noticeable in our lives are the exquisite rhythms in dancing and accomplished pipe or string playing. Timing and rhythm are also involved in the military arts, shooting bows and guns, and riding horses. In all skills and abilities there is timing.
    There is also rhythm in the Void.
    There is a rhythm in the whole life of the warrior, in his thriving and declining, in his harmony and discord. Similarly, there is a rhythm in the Way of the merchant, of becoming rich and of losing one's fortune, in the rise and fall of capital. All things entail rising and falling rhythm. You must be able to discern this. In strategy there are various considerations. From the outset you must attune to your opponent, then you must learn to disconcert him. It is crucial to know the applicable rhythm and the inapplicable rhythm, and from among the large and small rhythms and the fast and slow rhythms find the relevant rhythm. You must see the rhythm of distance, and the rhythm of reversal. This is the main thing in strategy. It is especially important to understand the rhythms of reversal; otherwise your strategy will be unreliable.
    In combat, you must learn the rhythm of each opponent, and use the rhythms that your opponents don't expect. You win by creating formless rhythms out of the rhythm of the Void.


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    Re: PvP is ruined

    Post by The Letter X on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:16 pm

    I should look more into Musashi's writings. I'm more drawn to writings like Sun Tzu's The Art of War or Sun Bin's The Lost Art of War, but I'm definitely interested in expanding my library on books of this nature.


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    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:16 pm

    Very philosophical. I like that a lot!


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