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    Post by Juutas Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:43 pm

    SenseLimitedCo was kind enough to record this weapon swap showcase with me and EIiitti couple of weeks back.
    HOPE YOU ENJOY The Glorious Weapon Swap (video) 945058907AND START TRAINING ON YOUR SWAPS <3


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    Post by Automancer Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:46 pm

    Yay, more broken glitch abusers coming our way. Look Skyward
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    Post by User1 Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:47 pm

    I would watch this, but I have to stay ahead of the competition of highest posts today. I've got 2 people trying to beat me!
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    Post by Juutas Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:53 pm

    Automancer wrote:Yay, more broken glitch abusers coming our way. The Glorious Weapon Swap (video) 2707236321

    Actually the risk/reward-ratio with these swaps is not broken at all.
    It is very challenging to land this on actual fight and if you miss it suck all you stamina (at least on the best combos) and leaves you open for bs.
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    Post by Saturday-Saint Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:46 pm

    The rolling attack thing is pretty broken if the guy gets good at it or has a programmable controller or something.

    Rollswapping weapon buffs on to normally unbuffable weapons just brings up the problem where people who do it have an advantage over people who don't and it's weird and glitchy enough that the scrub community of duelists will probably refuse to play with it instead of adapting. Also it allows TWoD which nobody wants.
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    Post by Dibsville Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:47 pm

    Stone Greatsword + DMB.
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    Post by Dibsville Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:48 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:I would watch this, but I have to stay ahead of the competition of highest posts today. I've got 2 people trying to beat me!
    I'll get you, hun.
    Just you wait.
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    Post by Phoenix Rising Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:48 pm

    Good thing rolling attacks are easy to parry.
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    Post by EeAyEss Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:51 pm

    I REALLY was waiting for a Bonewheel shield to Smough's Hammer/Demon Great Ax.
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    Post by The Letter X Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:04 pm

    Seriously, if you get caught in it, you most likely deserved it. You either made a fatal mistake or your opponent was good enough to pull it off flawlessly.
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    Post by Juutas Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:23 pm

    Saturday-Saint wrote:The rolling attack thing is pretty broken if the guy gets good at it or has a programmable controller or something.

    Rollswapping weapon buffs on to normally unbuffable weapons just brings up the problem where people who do it have an advantage over people who don't and it's weird and glitchy enough that the scrub community of duelists will probably refuse to play with it instead of adapting. Also it allows TWoD which nobody wants.

    I think buffs in general have always been too powerful in this game and I don't intend to use any buff swap glitches myself, but being able to land weapon swap combo on your opponent with fast roll is no easy task to pull off in the heat of battle so I consider it completely legit.
    I have landed it on duels and I've died because of it in duels.
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    Post by Juutas Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:25 pm

    The Letter X wrote:Seriously, if you get caught in it, you most likely deserved it. You either made a fatal mistake or your opponent was good enough to pull it off flawlessly.

    Exactly.
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    Post by Saturday-Saint Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:27 pm

    Yeah but muscle memory and all that. It's hard now but with enough practice will become trivial. I fought some guy once who was either very good at it or had a programmable controller and it was pretty nightmarish. He'd roll at me with a dagger and then R2 > R2 for 3/4th's of my health. And he did this very consistently and seemingly without much trouble.

    AFAIK it's not possible to delay this after the roll, though, since you press R2 mid-roll. So the roll is a big enough telegraph. So long as you're expecting the guy to use this glitch, it should be manageable.
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    Post by Myztyrio Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:40 pm

    Most broken = Ricard's/Gold Tracer --> Shotel/lifehunt scythe
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    Post by EeAyEss Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:41 pm

    Myztyrio wrote:Most broken = Ricard's/Gold Tracer --> Shotel/lifehunt scythe

    No. Bonewheel shield to Crystal Demon's Great Ax.
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    Post by Seignar Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:44 pm

    ...
    Abyss Greatsword 1H-Strong ---> Demon's Greataxe swap --->Demon's Greataxe 1H Strong Attack follow-up

    Pwned.
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    Post by Juutas Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:13 pm

    The most effective combo (so far) is actually Gold tracer 2H R2 -> Greatsword.

    If opponent has low-ish~ bleed resistance, the best combo is Gold tracer 2H R2 -> Lifehunt Scythe.

    My personal favourite is Iaito 2H R2 -> Zweihander :') not really THAT powerful but cool as hell and it pancakes (I also demonstrate it on the video).
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    Post by The Letter X Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:15 pm

    Yeah, the Gold Tracer -> Greatsword combo is ridiculous, and it is also my favorite.
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    Post by Juutas Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:39 pm

    The Letter X wrote:Yeah, the Gold Tracer -> Greatsword combo is ridiculous, and it is also my favorite.

    Greatsword is above others because the R2 attack on it doesn't pancake, so your combo can continue for full 3 hits. All other UGS or otherwise strong weapons have pancake on R2 so it only does the first hit and knocks the opponent down.
    Other good option is Murakumo swap twisted
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    Post by Maneater_Mildred Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:48 pm

    It's a slippery slope you're on, justice a small step away from the full weapon animation swap, which is pure evil.
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    Post by EeAyEss Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:51 pm

    If I knew the full weapon swap glitch, I would totally use it to give a dagger the moveset of the greatsword or DEMON'S GREAT AXE. Oh, the lulz.
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    Post by Jansports Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:01 pm

    I Strongly Disagree with this. It is very clearly a glitch, and if you open the door to glitches everything goes to hell.
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    Post by RANT Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:49 pm

    yeah, it's clearly a gitch. if all of a sudden everyone starts doing this then i might as well go in with twod since its pretty much the same thing.
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    Post by lordgodofhell Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:15 pm

    This is useless versus anyone worth his armor. Parrying a rolling attack has to be the easiest thing to do in pvp. Entertaining to watch? Yes. Useful against say a Mossad or an Amos? No.
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    Post by Saturday-Saint Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:30 pm

    How come a thread linking to a replacement for BBG, a widely used and accepted glitch, got locked and had its link removed, but this thread that showcases a glitch with very clear game-breaking potential is left alone?

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