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    Post by Virulas on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:21 pm

    please tell me i just got trolled by From and theres actually a harder boss? I died 6 times trying to get to pinwheel, go in there with my BEST gear (+ 10 claymore, Lightning Spear etc) smack him twice with the claymore while 2 handing it and killed him.

    Please please PLEASE tell me From just trolled me before Nito


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:24 pm

    I don't think Pinwheel is a "troll" boss, I just think he is poorly designed.

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    Post by Automancer on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:31 pm

    Why would they troll 'you'?

    They're trolling EVERYONE.

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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:31 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:I don't think Pinwheel is a "troll" boss, I just think he is poorly designed.

    It would have been a lot cooler if he was more glass-cannon-y.


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:33 pm

    Phoenix Rising wrote:
    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:I don't think Pinwheel is a "troll" boss, I just think he is poorly designed.

    It would have been a lot cooler if he was more glass-cannon-y.

    Yeah, if he actually did something - anything - threatening he wouldn't be such a waste of space.

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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:35 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:
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    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:I don't think Pinwheel is a "troll" boss, I just think he is poorly designed.

    It would have been a lot cooler if he was more glass-cannon-y.

    Yeah, if he actually did something - anything - threatening he wouldn't be such a waste of space.

    They would have been better off giving the Rite of Kindling to Paladin Leeroy.


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:37 pm

    Let him clone himself about 9 nine times on Ng+ or ++ then you start getting a challenge.


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by User1 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:43 pm

    Forcing yourself to make a boss a challenge just proves how bad a boss it is.
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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by gmwdim on Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:02 pm

    They really should have just given Pinwheel more HP. If you've tried fighting him with a weak weapon, you'll see that the fight becomes challenging if you can't kill him right away, and let him teleport around and make a million copies of himself.


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by User1 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:04 pm

    Try a sl1 fight without Leeroy = Actual boss.
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    Post by ADirtySlate on Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:06 pm

    They should have made Pinwheel either:

    -More hard-hitting
    -Faster
    -Beefier

    Or any combination of those. As he is now, he's a joke. But he's our joke.
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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:38 pm

    Unfortunately, he's the biggest disappointment of a boss.

    I just did him on my coop tour with an SL20 with dual fist weapons (upaarkaam with me had mimic head on as his disadvantage), I don't even know how many times we died on the way in the catacombs, it was ridiculous! couple times to falls, to patches, dying the enemies in general, bonewheel ownage, blackknight instakilling... You get the picture.

    We get to pinwheel, first attempt to kill him (we have +5 weapons here folks, PLUS FIVE, and mine were caestus), we destroyed him.. Infact I don't think I had to heal once..

    If they made him compulsory boss to do before anor londo, and gave him a couple extra attacks and health that would do it, it's just the fact he's pathetic as is, and on top of that most people attempt him post anor londo with near end game gear?

    I love FROM, but pinwheel is the worst thing they did on Dark souls.. Well second to making armour minus the capes and plumes that made them silly


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:33 pm

    Pinwheel is meant to be an optional first boss, he is the ONLY boss you can reach WITH OUT glitching except the Tauros Demon, assuming you don't start with the master key.
    If you fight him with a +3 weapon, you can see just how hard he is.
    When he's ~30% health, he spawns like 8 pinwheels instead of 2, and if a single fireball hits you, you're done. And you may be thinking, "Fireballs are easy to dodge", but at base level, you'll run out of stamina before they stop firing.


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by gmwdim on Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:36 pm

    If you can make it through the Catacombs with only a +3 weapon (non-divine), you probably won't find him that hard.


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by Brigade on Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:07 am

    gmwdim wrote:If you can make it through the Catacombs with only a +3 weapon (non-divine), you probably won't find him that hard.

    Try to remember that this game was made in Japan. They can fend off a horde of demon tentacle zombies, but can't stop a schoolgirl with a beretta.
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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by Shindori on Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:11 am

    Pinwheel is meant to be taken on early in the game. Most people go to the catacombs only after Anor Londo. This explains the ease of the boss.


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    Post by Dibsville on Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:12 am

    Shindori wrote:Pinwheel is meant to be taken on early in the game. Most people go to the catacombs only after Anor Londo. This explains the ease of the boss.
    He's meant to be taken on after the Moonlight Butterfly.


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    Re: are you kidding me?

    Post by gmwdim on Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:13 am

    I don't think he's meant to be taken on early in the game. You can't proceed through the Tomb of the Giants until after you've set the Lordvessel, so beating Pinwheel would get you stuck and force you to go all the way back up to Firelink Shrine, without any shortcut. I'm pretty sure Catacombs are supposed to come after Anor Londo.


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    Post by Shindori on Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:19 am

    gmwdim wrote:I don't think he's meant to be taken on early in the game. You can't proceed through the Tomb of the Giants until after you've set the Lordvessel, so beating Pinwheel would get you stuck and force you to go all the way back up to Firelink Shrine, without any shortcut. I'm pretty sure Catacombs are supposed to come after Anor Londo.
    what kind of laziness do you have in which you can't backtrack out of the catacombs? It's the easiest plays to backtrack out of, and most fun. Hell, I sometimes get the rite of kindling as soon as I get to lordran. If you find something too easy, then either youre too good or taking it on at the wrong time. Either way, pinwill is just like other minibosses, meant to poss a very small challenge as he becomes a normal monster later on in the game.


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    gmwdim wrote:I don't think he's meant to be taken on early in the game. You can't proceed through the Tomb of the Giants until after you've set the Lordvessel, so beating Pinwheel would get you stuck and force you to go all the way back up to Firelink Shrine, without any shortcut. I'm pretty sure Catacombs are supposed to come after Anor Londo.
    You also can't proceed past the ceaseless, or up to the catacombs.
    He's meant to be taken on after the Moonlight Butterfly.


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    gmwdim wrote:I don't think he's meant to be taken on early in the game. You can't proceed through the Tomb of the Giants until after you've set the Lordvessel, so beating Pinwheel would get you stuck and force you to go all the way back up to Firelink Shrine, without any shortcut. I'm pretty sure Catacombs are supposed to come after Anor Londo.
    what kind of laziness do you have in which you can't backtrack out of the catacombs? It's the easiest plays to backtrack out of, and most fun. Hell, I sometimes get the rite of kindling as soon as I get to lordran. If you find something too easy, then either youre too good or taking it on at the wrong time. Either way, pinwill is just like other minibosses, meant to poss a very small challenge as he becomes a normal monster later on in the game.

    Calm down, dude. I didn't say I can't backtrack out of the Catacombs, and you have no justification for calling me lazy.

    Also, if you're going to assert what the developers "meant", shouldn't you have some evidence?


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    gmwdim wrote:
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    gmwdim wrote:I don't think he's meant to be taken on early in the game. You can't proceed through the Tomb of the Giants until after you've set the Lordvessel, so beating Pinwheel would get you stuck and force you to go all the way back up to Firelink Shrine, without any shortcut. I'm pretty sure Catacombs are supposed to come after Anor Londo.
    what kind of laziness do you have in which you can't backtrack out of the catacombs? It's the easiest plays to backtrack out of, and most fun. Hell, I sometimes get the rite of kindling as soon as I get to lordran. If you find something too easy, then either youre too good or taking it on at the wrong time. Either way, pinwill is just like other minibosses, meant to poss a very small challenge as he becomes a normal monster later on in the game.

    Calm down, dude. I didn't say I can't backtrack out of the Catacombs, and you have no justification for calling me lazy.

    Also, if you're going to assert what the developers "meant", shouldn't you have some evidence?
    Lol.
    The developers "meant" for it to be after the Butterfly, which is why you get the Divine Ember there. Either way, I agree with you. He didn't even spell the boss' name right. silly


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    Okay, that makes sense. However, I usually don't even bother fighting the butterfly until after Anor Londo, when I realize I have to do the Catacombs. silly


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    gmwdim wrote:
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    gmwdim wrote:I don't think he's meant to be taken on early in the game. You can't proceed through the Tomb of the Giants until after you've set the Lordvessel, so beating Pinwheel would get you stuck and force you to go all the way back up to Firelink Shrine, without any shortcut. I'm pretty sure Catacombs are supposed to come after Anor Londo.
    what kind of laziness do you have in which you can't backtrack out of the catacombs? It's the easiest plays to backtrack out of, and most fun. Hell, I sometimes get the rite of kindling as soon as I get to lordran. If you find something too easy, then either youre too good or taking it on at the wrong time. Either way, pinwill is just like other minibosses, meant to poss a very small challenge as he becomes a normal monster later on in the game.

    Calm down, dude. I didn't say I can't backtrack out of the Catacombs, and you have no justification for calling me lazy.

    Also, if you're going to assert what the developers "meant", shouldn't you have some evidence?
    Should come as something obvious. You face the capra demon long before going to its natural habit, the path to lost izalith. Same thing for the taurus demon. and same thing for pinwheel. Kinda easy to connect the dots.. if you need any more 'proof' the track list of the soundtrack is also a sort of 'walkthrough', telling you the order in which the bosses are meant to be defeated.


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    Post by Dibsville on Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:31 am

    gmwdim wrote:Okay, that makes sense. However, I usually don't even bother fighting the butterfly until after Anor Londo, when I realize I have to do the Catacombs. silly
    I usually do it after the Gargoyles. I go kill the Stray Demon and pick up the Crest Shield after Gargoyles (the elevator is right there, it's obvious that should be the next boss), then I'm off to the Butterfly. After that, I go down to Darkroot Basin so I can just go up Havel's Tower and literally be at the door to the Undead Parish.

    It's how the game was meant to play out. silly


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