The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

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    The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Juutas on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:43 pm

    SenseLimitedCo was kind enough to record this weapon swap showcase with me and EIiitti couple of weeks back.
    HOPE YOU ENJOY AND START TRAINING ON YOUR SWAPS <3


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Automancer on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:46 pm

    Yay, more broken glitch abusers coming our way. Look Skyward


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by User1 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:47 pm

    I would watch this, but I have to stay ahead of the competition of highest posts today. I've got 2 people trying to beat me!
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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Juutas on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:53 pm

    Automancer wrote:Yay, more broken glitch abusers coming our way.

    Actually the risk/reward-ratio with these swaps is not broken at all.
    It is very challenging to land this on actual fight and if you miss it suck all you stamina (at least on the best combos) and leaves you open for bs.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:46 pm

    The rolling attack thing is pretty broken if the guy gets good at it or has a programmable controller or something.

    Rollswapping weapon buffs on to normally unbuffable weapons just brings up the problem where people who do it have an advantage over people who don't and it's weird and glitchy enough that the scrub community of duelists will probably refuse to play with it instead of adapting. Also it allows TWoD which nobody wants.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:47 pm

    Stone Greatsword + DMB.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Dibsville on Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:48 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:I would watch this, but I have to stay ahead of the competition of highest posts today. I've got 2 people trying to beat me!
    I'll get you, hun.
    Just you wait.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:48 pm

    Good thing rolling attacks are easy to parry.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:51 pm

    I REALLY was waiting for a Bonewheel shield to Smough's Hammer/Demon Great Ax.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by The Letter X on Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:04 pm

    Seriously, if you get caught in it, you most likely deserved it. You either made a fatal mistake or your opponent was good enough to pull it off flawlessly.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Juutas on Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:23 pm

    Saturday-Saint wrote:The rolling attack thing is pretty broken if the guy gets good at it or has a programmable controller or something.

    Rollswapping weapon buffs on to normally unbuffable weapons just brings up the problem where people who do it have an advantage over people who don't and it's weird and glitchy enough that the scrub community of duelists will probably refuse to play with it instead of adapting. Also it allows TWoD which nobody wants.

    I think buffs in general have always been too powerful in this game and I don't intend to use any buff swap glitches myself, but being able to land weapon swap combo on your opponent with fast roll is no easy task to pull off in the heat of battle so I consider it completely legit.
    I have landed it on duels and I've died because of it in duels.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Juutas on Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:25 pm

    The Letter X wrote:Seriously, if you get caught in it, you most likely deserved it. You either made a fatal mistake or your opponent was good enough to pull it off flawlessly.

    Exactly.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:27 pm

    Yeah but muscle memory and all that. It's hard now but with enough practice will become trivial. I fought some guy once who was either very good at it or had a programmable controller and it was pretty nightmarish. He'd roll at me with a dagger and then R2 > R2 for 3/4th's of my health. And he did this very consistently and seemingly without much trouble.

    AFAIK it's not possible to delay this after the roll, though, since you press R2 mid-roll. So the roll is a big enough telegraph. So long as you're expecting the guy to use this glitch, it should be manageable.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:40 pm

    Most broken = Ricard's/Gold Tracer --> Shotel/lifehunt scythe


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:41 pm

    Myztyrio wrote:Most broken = Ricard's/Gold Tracer --> Shotel/lifehunt scythe

    No. Bonewheel shield to Crystal Demon's Great Ax.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Seignar on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:44 pm

    ...
    Abyss Greatsword 1H-Strong ---> Demon's Greataxe swap --->Demon's Greataxe 1H Strong Attack follow-up

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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Juutas on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:13 pm

    The most effective combo (so far) is actually Gold tracer 2H R2 -> Greatsword.

    If opponent has low-ish~ bleed resistance, the best combo is Gold tracer 2H R2 -> Lifehunt Scythe.

    My personal favourite is Iaito 2H R2 -> Zweihander :') not really THAT powerful but cool as hell and it pancakes (I also demonstrate it on the video).


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by The Letter X on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:15 pm

    Yeah, the Gold Tracer -> Greatsword combo is ridiculous, and it is also my favorite.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Juutas on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:39 pm

    The Letter X wrote:Yeah, the Gold Tracer -> Greatsword combo is ridiculous, and it is also my favorite.

    Greatsword is above others because the R2 attack on it doesn't pancake, so your combo can continue for full 3 hits. All other UGS or otherwise strong weapons have pancake on R2 so it only does the first hit and knocks the opponent down.
    Other good option is Murakumo swap twisted


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:48 pm

    It's a slippery slope you're on, justice a small step away from the full weapon animation swap, which is pure evil.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:51 pm

    If I knew the full weapon swap glitch, I would totally use it to give a dagger the moveset of the greatsword or DEMON'S GREAT AXE. Oh, the lulz.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Jansports on Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:01 pm

    I Strongly Disagree with this. It is very clearly a glitch, and if you open the door to glitches everything goes to hell.
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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by RANT on Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:49 pm

    yeah, it's clearly a gitch. if all of a sudden everyone starts doing this then i might as well go in with twod since its pretty much the same thing.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by lordgodofhell on Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:15 pm

    This is useless versus anyone worth his armor. Parrying a rolling attack has to be the easiest thing to do in pvp. Entertaining to watch? Yes. Useful against say a Mossad or an Amos? No.


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    Re: The Glorious Weapon Swap (video)

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:30 pm

    How come a thread linking to a replacement for BBG, a widely used and accepted glitch, got locked and had its link removed, but this thread that showcases a glitch with very clear game-breaking potential is left alone?


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